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 Post subject: Re: White Steel rusted?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:38 am 
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Let's take into account, that for people that are brand new to carbon knives (and spending $$)...this at least gives them some resort.
(Especially on a non-kurouchi knife)

White steel rusted? Hope it helps...



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:53 am 
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desol wrote:White steel rusted? Hope it helps...
And it only took 7 pages :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: White Steel rusted?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:01 am 
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ha!! :D

You have to deal with these patina people somehow...



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 Post subject: Re: White Steel rusted?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:30 pm 

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desol wrote:...
It's important to use a soft cloth tho, cause you will get hard to remove, fine scratches (talking a polished knife here...not kurouchi) if you use something less than soft enough. I use a shammy that I got at a car wash...it really soaks up water well and it won't hurt the finish on the knife.


In the car detailing world, a shammy from a local car wash would be considered "sandpaper".

To test the cloth, rub the dry towel on an old CD/DVD. The more pressure you can apply before the cloth starts scratching, the better. If at your normal pressure, the shammy doesn't scratch the CD, you won't benefit from a softer cloth.

The finest soft cloth towels I've used are the Zaino towels - http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/mer ... Code=Zaino

Of course, paint is much softer than steel. And a Zaino towel might not be any better than your shammy for polishing steel. But if you are interested in a finer shine, I'd suggest trying a Zaino towel.


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 Post subject: Re: White Steel rusted?
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It's helpful to have some specific information about ways to deal with and remove patina.

In the end, to each his/her own. My knives, my time, my money, my choice. And the same for anyone else.

It just happens to bother me when someone needs to justify their own choices by denigrating the different choices of others. Your knives, your money, your time, your choice.

I came across a couple interesting threads discussing the chemical aspects of patina and rust. Since the OP mentioned rust in the thread title, it's important to make the distinction between the two. I don't know anyone who thinks rust is acceptable on a knife. Largely over my head in terms of chemistry, but it's possible to glean some of the main points without getting all the details.

http://www.knifenetwork.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=44221

http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... -rust-quot


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 Post subject: Re: White Steel rusted?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:16 pm 
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Thanks for pointing out the towel Doug! Shammy works fine...tho, I may need one of those Zaino's someday for something else...


Todd, I'm very sorry I upset you. :) I wasn't purposely calling you lazy and trying to tell you what to do with your knife....or anyone else.
I was more, protesting the information which is (default) offered to new users, when it comes to this issue.

ie: "How can I remove the stuff on my new knife?" (common question) - answer - "You can't...it's good for the knife anyway"
That really doesn't answer my question does it? and besides, it's backwards to how these knives are traditionally treated.

Does that make any sense?

I have a lot of respect for the time these guys put into making their knives. When I buy the knife, It's kinda like...it sorta still belongs to Fujiyama...even tho it is my knife...
and if I let it patina and rust, than I'm kinda insulting his work, his time, the polisher's time...and all the generations of skilled artisans in their families before them.

:shock:

There are differences between rust and patina. Water makes rust, acid makes patina.



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