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 Post subject: Which Shapton Pro Set? and flattener?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:21 pm 

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Hey Everyone!

I'm new to hand sharpening (sharpened a knife by hand once so far using a King 1k+6k combo stone) but was hoping I could get a bit of guidance on which Shapton set to go with. I really like the idea of Splash-N-Go stones especially for a newbie to hand sharpening. The simplicity of these style of stones combined with the boxes that double as holders as well as the very positive reviews I have seen have made these very appealing.

Anyhow, I'm a bit torn on which set of them to get though. I'm wondering if I should go 320+1k+5k or 1k+5k and maybe add a lower stone later or go 1k+5k+8k?

I'm not looking to do any re-profiling or chip repair or anything like that (at least not for a long while until I'm very comfortable with what I'm doing), I simply want a good starter set of stones that would be ideal for me to get a hair splitting/screaming sharp edge on my knives. I would prefer something easier to use and cheaper is better but I'm willing to spend the money to get a quality set hence why I was looking at Shapton as well.

Additionally do you have any recommendations on a flattening plate for the stones? I heard that you should round off the edges of the stones before use so maybe something to use for this purpose as well as to keep the stones flat?

Regarding my knives, I have a Tojiro DP right now and will be picking up a Richmond Laser Aogami Super 240mm Gyuto. Richmond Artifex AEB-L 210mm Gyuto and some Petty knife, probably AEB-L as well.

So with all that info in mind, which set do you think would be best for me? Also, I'm open to other stone suggestions, these are just the ones that seemed to fit my interests right off the bat....

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:27 pm 
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SNAKE <> Hand's down the 320+ set <--link because a 5k edge is more than you'll most likely ever need and that set is more versatile for a beginner. That said, to pass a HHT the 8k set <--link would be necessary.

As for the lapping plate, buy the best so you can grow into it. The ATOMA <--link will serve you well for a long long time offering you a broader capability even if your skill set is not commensurate... yet.



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 Post subject: Re: Which Shapton Pro Set? and flattener?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:04 pm 

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Listen to Mel over my advice, he is more experienced, but just to add some color...

I would get the 1k-5k and the Atoma. I have been sharpening for a while and I still don't know that I need a coarser stone, though I do own one. A 5k edge is pretty kick ass in the kitchen and the 1k will do most of the work you want to get done. Now when you do start to get the itch to do more thinning/repair type operations the coarser stone can be a huge labor saver. In the meantime I would save the coin and invest in the Atoma. I do not own the Atoma, I use a DMT X-Coarse and while it works, it suctions to the stones very badly and makes flattening much more of a chore than I think it needs to be. Per reviews of the Atoma I have read, the Atoma does not exhibit this problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:10 pm 
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you can also use the same atoma plate to chamfer the edges of the stone as well as flatten it.

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I started with the 1 and 5 pro. next 2 sharpening purchases will ve atoma 140 and shapton pro 320.


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The 320-5k set will be more useful and definitely get the Atoma plate if the funds are available. I started with a DMT and bought the Atoma later, wished I had started with the Atoma now.



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Thanks for the suggestions everyone! Financially if I'm getting the Atoma than the 320 is out, it would have to be the 1k+5k set. Also, just to double check, when you receive the Shapton's you should round the edges off correct?


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A right angle edge can break if hit or chip a knife if you make contact poorly. Chamfering the edges makes the corners stronger and less likely to bite into the knife.

I would not worry about "rounding", just use your diamond plate to put a small 45° bevel on the edges.


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Just a bit of a trick - Bevel the edges on the side of the stone without the writing or stamps on it and leave the other side sharp to use for sharpening serrated blades. Then do all of your sharpening on the rounded off side. The rounding is very slight just enough so you don't catch a rail if you lift off the stone a bit.

Get the 140 Atoma and then decide past the 1k 5k what you will buy next. If you use the Atoma for sharpening too, you will want a stone below the 1k and here I recommend the 150 Bamboo over anything else in any sharpening setup from Naniwa or Shapton or any other vendor's stones. You will eventually add a 2k too.

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 Post subject: Re: Which Shapton Pro Set? and flattener?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:46 am 

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In doing this though wouldn't you use only one side of the stone for your routine sharpening and thus wear it out un-evenly? I thought you should sometimes use both sides of the stone, or is that unfounded?


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