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 Post subject: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:59 am 
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I used paper on-hand to create an alternate background on these. I wanted to easily identify these as done with a different video camera I had available to test and compare. I love the camera, just not the 8K price tag. :(

Enjoy!

Konosuke HD2 Gyuto 240mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/embottNkjtQ
New version: http://youtu.be/QRbkUUyjg2o

Takeda AS Classic Deba Bocho 180mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/e2JjOKZPdpA
New version: http://youtu.be/O03AyXMhH0c

Minamoto Hamon 19C27 Nakiri 165mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/msJH4gDe8ag
New version: http://youtu.be/QQHVIlmgXNw

Kohetsu AS Nakiri 165mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/ZSoAxY1T2rk
New version: http://youtu.be/d_U3biea2Zo

Saji Damascus R 2 Gyuto 240mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/3LAupB5GHuk
New version: http://youtu.be/TJR-B2-Dchk

Saji Damascus R 2 Gyuto 210mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/axTTertNOyk
New version: http://youtu.be/jBNYOkZDyJc

Richmond Ginsan Laser Gyuto 240mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/8tvhX0GiTuA
New version: http://youtu.be/zuFCOaYkN4k

Kohetsu AS Honesuki 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/JpShWqOLyBQ
New version: http://youtu.be/ij239pG2yT0

Konosuke HD2 Honesuki 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/Lz7uIgIM9Rg
New version: http://youtu.be/SrJggZ1061s

CKTG Hankotsu Knife Roundup #1 Quick Look
http://youtu.be/x7hn_2ZlrWE
New version: http://youtu.be/2ofupD36I_4

Takayuki Grand Chef Hankotsu 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/i3mFvSwu1XY
New version: http://youtu.be/8yZHyBXKF-k

Kikuichi Carbon Elite Hankotsu 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/JRwHX0fO1kA
New version: http://youtu.be/tZbCr7najWs

Richmond Artifex Hankotsu 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/76sK4NE_-rE
New version: http://youtu.be/cXtlSSaE_yU

Kunimitsu Western Deba 170mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/jjxKRQOIhsU
New version: http://youtu.be/m_fPbFPK7UM

Masakage Yuki Honesuki 150mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/D0jR3mPuhmA
New version: http://youtu.be/covdJx2mWGc

Richmond Sakai White #2 Deba 165mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/D3kl9AEc34A
New version: http://youtu.be/F5Osndedq0A

Richmond Sakai White #2 Deba 180mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/Mz_J-a2CUpI
New version: http://youtu.be/9lmXEd-dlYk

Masamoto KS Wa Gyuto 240mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/u5zWEbPoE_c
New version: http://youtu.be/NoNn-yyr0hA

Doi Blue Steel Deba 180mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/-_UQS8PMlTA
New version: http://youtu.be/FgiUMgnDqg4

Richmond Artifex Wa Gyuto 210mm Quick Look
http://youtu.be/W-RzTq5HsYE
New version: http://youtu.be/tFrSt2kQJVk


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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:07 am 
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A few knives in there I'm looking forward to seeing. I'm sure these will be as quality as all the others. Thanks Steve!



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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:07 am 
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The new world of 4k Ultra HD.



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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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Only got through two of these so far, but I just had to say that I really liked what I saw! After I watch a few more, I may have some humble suggestions for future experiments as you continue to explore the new gear (assuming it sticks around for a little while). I can tell already that you're excited to take advantage of the improved detail as regards F&F details, profile, and grind, which is terrific given your experience and attention in these areas (the fact that we can see more ourselves makes it all the better!). BTW: did you also change to a more cinematic (i.e., slower, as in classic cinema) framerate, or is that just more YouTube compression due to the higher upload size? I don't find it distracting at all—just curious!



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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:19 pm 
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Thanks Joe, I actually shot it in XDCAM 422/50Mbs/720p/59.94. I rendered out WMV files at 720p/59.94 and also tested 720p/60 as well. YouTube's compression seemed to treat them the same as far as strobing. I personally find the strobing annoying - still looking at output options to best minimize it on YT. The YT source upload looks great on my computer - no strobing at all :-). This camera has 1/2" sensors versus 1/3" on my usual camera. The picture quality difference is very noticeable. It did a much better job on auto focus for the knife videos as well. And of course, suggest away :-). I'm always open to ideas to improve these and show more of what you want to see about the knives.

@Mel - Yes 4K looks fantastic, but it's total overkill for this type of project with web delivery as the primary goal. Those 4K codecs can get massive as well - lots of storage space and horsepower required to process and edit. As it stands, the XDCAM 422/50 camera files were much larger then the AVCHD format I'm currently using. BTW, I could easily see the picture improvement on the camera HDMI output to my 5" confidence monitor while filming - a lot more detail was present.


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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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Thanks for the feedback, Steve! The fact that you were shooting in 720 supports the improvement in the sensors, which is substantial. Being an Apple fan, I'm always quick to accept that the quality of the sensor and its calibration with the screen formatting/resolution has a lot more to do with perceived detail than maximum pixels (I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here!). The level of detail (an effect of the sensors, I presume) was obviously a huge improvement—and that is not to imply your previous videos were problematic! Based on just the two (still), I can tell you already that I'll probably think most about the lighting possibilities. With the better autofocus, you're getting a much better and faster response on all of the detail work/commentary. I think that you may be able to experiment with using a lighting scheme that has a bit more diffused spotting to complement this improvement in the camera's capabilities (and to complement your always astute comments about fit and finish, etc). Your videos are always clear and have a nice tone, but the two I watched have a "Canon" effect of being a little more red-saturated that is causing some color distortion, I think—this is particularly true deeper in the field, near the table. This may be a white-balance thing, or a lighting thing, and I know I need to watch more before I would back up these claims with any real muster. Regardless, they look great—I only mention these things because I know you like the feedback, and because I don't know when I'll get a moment to think more about it.

I use Chrome as a browser, and it probably contributes to the added strobing. My guess is that a different browser would do it less—chrome is especially good at streaming, etc., because it seems to be much more clever about decompressing video, usually by sacrificing the quality a bit. I have no idea if this is technically true, but it appears to be true to me! Either way, I'm shocked that you were shooting near 60 fps. What I was seeing appeared to be in the 24 fps range, if memory serves me correctly. Sorry that YT doesn't obey all commands!!

Again, excited improvements, and I'm excited to see more videos when I get the chance!



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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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Picture quality is out of this world! The level and detail on the Saji blades really shine through.

Great job as always Steve.


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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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CGuarin1987 wrote:Picture quality is out of this world! The level and detail on the Saji blades really shine through.

Great job as always Steve.

+1 Agree completely! It almost looks like I can reach in and grab the knife! Excellent Steve, just excellent!



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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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Charlemagne <> I re-rendered all the videos to MP4 30P format and uploaded those to YT. Checkout the top post for new links. I did some testing with frame blending and 24/30P and this seems to work better.


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 Post subject: Re: Quick Look Round 13 Knife Videos
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Try recording in a lower format (30 fps) with a target toward YouTube recommended formats.
See https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en

It seems counter intuitive but the end result is better.


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