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 Post subject: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:45 pm 
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Hi Mark, i’m thinking about buying my mom a santoku. she takes reasonably good care of her knives but i don’t want something that is going to rust if left unwashed for a couple hours. i was thinking about the mac superior santoku because of the good cooks illustrated review, but then saw that pretty sweet looking tojiro dp 165mm damascus for about the same money. any big difference between the two? does the tojiro have the ugly english logo on the side opposite to the japanese writing? also, while i’m ordering, i was thinking about trying a wa style petty. any thoughts on 120 v 150 mm and which one’s you would recommend as best value for the money (the goko looks pretty cool)

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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 pm 
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I don't like using a 120mm petty. Too long to be a proper parer and too short to be a proper petty. I much prefer the 150mm length.

If you can wait for this to come back in stock, it's about the best deal on the site currently:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/fujiwara4.html

Between a the Mac and Tojiro, I'd probably get the Tojiro because I like the steel a little bit better. Although, I'd take this one over both:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/fufkmsa18.html



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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:15 am 
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Jame, I don't know if your budget allows, but the Takamura R-2 Santoku: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/takamura1.html would be worth every stinking penny. Superbly sharp OOTB, with great edge retention.

Another nice knife is the Takayuki Hammered Damascus Santoku: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/satadahasa18.html. It needs a little sanding at the spine/choil IMO, but it's a great knife.

On the Petty, are you looking for a less tall utility style knife or a taller Mini-Gyuto style Petty?


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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:37 am 

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When its back in stock, the anryu hammered santoku will out perform the knives you are looking at. It's larger than what you've been looking at but in the long run will be able to do much more than an undersized santoku.


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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:40 am 

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I read your post wrong, its the same size of santokus you were considering.


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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:17 pm 
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Santoku for your mom that won't break the bank. I like the Tojiro DP and Fujiwara FKM very much:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/todpsakn17.html

I also think this one is good. http://www.chefknivestogo.com/fufkmsa18.html



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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:47 am 

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Adam, that Fujiwara petty looks awesome. when that comes back in stock i think i'm in. is there any sanitary reason not use a utility knife like that to break down a chicken? As for my mom, despite my trying to convince her, my mom prefers a smaller knife--probably no more than 6.5 inches. i think i'll go with the tojiro or fujiwara. Thanks again everyone!


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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:34 am 
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I have that petty Adam referenced, it's my favorite knife in my kitchen. Hope to be able to afford the 210mm gyuto when it's back in stock.



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 3:26 am 

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There's no sanitary reason not to use any specific knife to break down a chicken. If you want to eight way it, you would want a different knife so as not to destroy a petty, but it would be sanitary.


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 Post subject: Re: Mac, Tojiro or other for gift?
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:38 pm 

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I know old habits die hard, but I'm very suspicious that your mom is like my girlfriend, and her length preference probably comes from holding the knife at the back of the handle with lousy grip. Since the knife is out of stock, you should give her one of your knives during your next joint meal, show her a proper grip, and see if she'd be open to something a bit longer—especially if it is lighter and feels shorter!

I say this only because she'll enjoy any knife more if she has a grip that makes her feel like she is in control of the whole blade...I think preferences for smaller knives often comes from feeling a lack of such control (board size and space notwithstanding).



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