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 Post subject: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:52 pm 
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Dear Mr. Richmond,

your online shop is awesome. Plenty of beautiful articels for a nice price.
Thus I found two interesting gyutos but cannot decide which one fits my needs better.
1.) Takeda Classic Medium (240mm) http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tagyas24.html
2.) Goko Gyuto (240mm) http://www.chefknivestogo.com/gokogyuto240mm.html

I'm looking for a versatile knife of Aogami or Shirogami steel with good food release.
Can you help me to decide? Or are there other knifes that better fit those criteria?

Furthermore I wish to buy some stones or sharpening tools for it. Can the Edge Pro Apex handle it?

Thanks a lot in advance,
Sven



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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:47 pm 

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links arent linking
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/gokogyuto240mm.html Goko
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tagyas24.html Takeda

I believe the Goko is partially stainless where as the Takeda is fully reactive. That is probably worth considering.

Price on both are also very different. I'd pick the Takeda.


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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:10 pm 
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Profile is the other consideration. The Takeda is really tall and has a big santoku vibe to it. The Goko is also tall as well but not quite a big as the Takeda.

I own a Takeda and I like it a lot.

The Edge Pro will work perfectly well with either of these knives. I recommend the essential set: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/edproesset.html

Better yet learn to free hand. It's more fun in my opinion and not nearly as hard as people think.



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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:35 pm 
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Hey guys thanks a lot for your input. How is the food release of these knifes? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:27 pm 

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I have not used the Takeda, but I really love my Goko. It is a work-horse type knife. Has a sturdy feel to it. It can wedge a little, though not bad, and the grind releases food very well. Besides the Kohetsu and Addict SLD, the Goko is probably the highest value of any of my knives, but it is more character.


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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:40 pm 
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Food release on both is good.

I'll second that the EdgePro will sharpen both very well. The only non-freehand method I've ever tried and liked. As with Mark, though, free hand is my preferred method and recommendation.

Between the two knives......both great knives and I recommend both often. However, as has already been noted, very different knives. If you're new to these type knives, I'd recommend the Goko due to it's stainless cladding and more normal profile.



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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:13 am 

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In agreement with cedarhouse, I too like the Goko. It is a great knife: rustic character, excellent white no. 1 steel which sharpens easy to a wicked edge, hardened enough to hold that edge and touches up easily with a ceramic rod, but not so hard as to worry about chipping or rough use.

It glides through food with no sticking. The combination of grind and that pear finish appears to make a difference.

I too have an Edge Pro Apex using it to sharpen the Goko ONCE initially while using the ceramic rod since.

The difference in price between the two knives will almost get the Goko AND the Apex kit. The base kit will provide a useful "kitchen edge" (~2k Shapton equiv.) with a ceramic rod adding that fine micro-edge. Add a few additional stones for a nice polished edge beyond that and you'll see years of enjoyment from the Goko.


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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:45 am 
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It's an insult to a Takeda to compare it to a Goko. Image



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 Post subject: Re: Which one is better?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:55 am 
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Thanks a lot guys. I decided to stick with my first love wich is the Takeda.
Anyways I'm still hesitating with the Stones vs EP decision. I also read from semi professionals recommending the EP due to its ability to easily add second bevels and keeping a preciser edge etc. How long are the EP stones lasting compared to normal. Thanks fellers


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jeff b :lol: at the animation


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