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 Post subject: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:07 pm 
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When it comes to an all carbon reactive knife, is there
another option besides soft iron? My real question,
What claddings are more likely to yield an attractive
patina, namely the blues and orange colorings?


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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
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There has been a discussion about this in the past. Unless the cladding material is listed by name by the maker, it is unlikely you will know the composition up front.

As to the soft iron nomenclature, the cladding layers will typically be softer because they will likely be a lower alloy steel which will not get as hard.

Since the chemical composition of the steel, its hardness, and the produce that it is reacting with all matter, it is hard to guarantee a specific look but some knives do have better reputations than others for this kind of performance.

Have you seen this thread?
patina-turner-t6924.html


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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:59 pm 
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ceaarhouse,
Yes, I do recall that thread and will re-visit. With the new arrivals coming in I was pondering
the issue of the cladding. It makes it a little harder if one needs to go by customer report
of a particular brand. For instance, I've shied away from the M. Shimo line. The grind
gets a great review but the patina may fall short for some. Always a trade off.
knowing, up front, what to expect would help in making a choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:04 pm 
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So we're talking specifically about an all carbon knife....carbon core, carbon cladding?!?!

I've seen:

Carbon cladding range from soft carbon to hard(ish) carbon

Iron cladding - not technically a carbon steel - this is typically your most reactive cladding

Damascus claddings made of carbon

Damascus claddings made of iron and steel

The coolest patina's IMHO come from carbon steel damascus claddings. They tend to patina the best over time. Although this type of cladding is rare.



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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:31 pm 
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Adam...
Thanks...yes, all carbon core...and, well, non SS, cladding.
Any cladding that is reactive...clues as to issues with food and nature of patina.
I'm currently pondering funayuki knives...such as,http://www.chefknivestogo.com/kawh3fu18.html
but I don't know anything about the cladding. I'm simply guessing...if a description includes the words
soft and iron, then maybe there will be issues of reactivity.

A better choice may be...http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tskafu16.html

I'm not looking for a recommendation, at this point...just a better understanding
of how nomenclature...as cedarhouse says...relates to reactivity


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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:40 pm 
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Typically your iron claddings will be the most reactive. How reactive they are can vary WILDLY though. I've seen some patina like typical carbon steels and others turn insta-orange rust (literally in the time it took to cut something to the time it took to wipe it off.....seconds). So going off of a retailers description can give you some idea.....but then not really.



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 Post subject: Re: Cladding: another stupid question?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:28 am 
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A mono-steel carbon may be worth considering also. They're getting harder to find all the time though.



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