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 Post subject: Films vs emulsions
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:32 am 

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I am curious. How does the diamond films compare to the diamond emulsion's sold by Ken S? Are they comparable? Are the grit ratings fairly the same? Or are they just different applications? Thanks trying to learn all this stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Films vs emulsions
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:57 am 
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Sorry I missed this buddy.

The films are a monocrystalline Diamond , making them slightly slower than a comparable polycrystalline emulsion. However the films can handle back and forth strokes down to about the 1u level , so you can go a lot longer before going to stropping only strokes.

The films got a bad rap around here because the first batch didn't hold up very well. They have undergone through a myriad of improvements making them much more durable. I feel they are a cost effective solution to dealing with high carbide wear resistant steels. They destroy the shaptons in this area , working much more quickly , they also start polishing much sooner , around 1k as opposed to 5k on my pro stones.

Im going to be doing some comparative testing here looking at the 140 atoma vs the 165u film , having used both extensively I think I kn ow which is going to get the nod but....... :)



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 Post subject: Re: Films vs emulsions
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:57 pm 

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165u diamond might be overkill and might give you scratches that are difficult to remove. But let us know how the shootout goes with the Atoma.

I just finished sharpening yet another abrasion resistant Gerber about 10 minutes ago. It was completely dull with no visible bevel. Whereas I should have probably started with the Atoma 140, I roughed in the bevel with the Bamboo 150. Then proceded through 30u, 15u, 6u, and 3u with my inexpensive homemade diamond plates. Brute force perfection except for some barely visible scratches remaining from the 30u. And they can stay there for all I care.

It's getting to the point where my Shaptons don't get used anymore. As much as I love the Shaptons, the diamonds work faster, there is no adjusting between plates, and no bother with flattening. I feel almost lazy, but I can't argue with the increased productivity. Looking back at the hours I wasted with the stock EP stones makes me sick.

Cheers,

Rick


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 Post subject: Re: Films vs emulsions
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:03 am 

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Thank you gentleman, Sadden please keep us posted on your testing.


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