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 Post subject: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:30 am 
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In the budget of $200-$250.
Chef/Gyuto
No santokus please.
I am right handed.
Stainless or Carbon, doesn't matter. I enjoy the ascetic of kurouchi knives.
I have never found a Japanese style handle that i have enjoyed, they seem too small for me.
My grip adapts to the task, although I usually use a pinch grip.
I would prefer something in the 240mm-270mm range.
I can sharpen my own knives. Still, I would prefer something durable that doesn't need to be babied.
Anything under budget is awesome.
I already own a Zwilling 4 star 10in as a beater knife and a Kikuichi Tsuchime Damascus 240mm. Should I just keep these and invest in my own sharpening set?

Thanks for any input, I always get good info here.



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:15 am 
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Hi Dan, I think the Goko 240 fits your description perfectly: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/gokogyuto240mm.html.

It's said to have a larger diameter handle, has stainless kurouchi finish over White #1 carbon, is a great performer with a bit of muscle (not too light), and is a good value.

But --- first things first --- you stated that you sharpen your own knives, then you asked about getting your own sharpening set.

Do you have any sharpening stones, strops, hones, etc? How do you currently maintain the edges on your knives? I'd like to know more so the forum members can make recommendations on sharpening stones, etc. if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:37 am 
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Dan, I'm going to throw out a couple other suggestions:

Kikuichi TKC 240 Gyuto: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/ic24gy.html.

Just ask Adam Marr how much he likes this knife :-). It's semi stainless, Western handled, and a killer performer. Not Kurouchi - I believe it's a mono-steel blade, but it'll kick the crap out of your 4 Star.

Another would be the Masakage Yuki 240 Gyuto: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/mayugy24.html

I own the 210 and it's one bad a$$ knife! Killer looks with the stainless steel kurouchi like the Goko, but it's got a normal size Wa handle. The nice thing about the Goko/Yuki finish is that it won't wear off like a traditional Kurouchi finish, plus it's SS for less maintenance. Just the core steel at the edge is carbon - less to maintain. It's still carbon with all the care requirements - there's just a lot less carbon to deal with when cleaning/wiping.

The Goko is a little less hard at RC 60 vs. 62-63 for the Yuki, so the Goko would be a bit more forgiving of miscues.

Check out this post for some closeup photos of my Yuki 210: masakage-yuki-210-gyuoto-larger-pics-t2122.html


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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:49 am 
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I use a community stone at work. I was thinking of the Arashiyama set here on CKTG.
The Kikuichi TKC is definitely on the list.



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:06 am 
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I know Mark really likes the Arashiyama set. With that set you should look at getting the universal stone holder/flattening plate combo: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/xxcdiplandun.html. The holder is really handy and the plate will make quick work of flattening your stones as needed. You could even use it in a pinch to remove a lot of metal on any knives that are in bad shape and set a bevel before moving on to the higher grit stones.

If you want more splash and go type stones, CKTG does have 2 piece Shapton Pro and Shapton Glass sets, as well as a 6 piece Shapton Glass set w/holder, plate, felt block, and loupe.


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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:00 am 
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Dan_Crubenew wrote:...I was thinking of the Arashiyama set here on CKTG...

I really like the Arashiyama set. I later added the 2k Green Brick to finish my German steel on and the 320 Shapton Pro to set bevels.



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:08 pm 
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Hi Dan,

Try the Kikuichi TKC: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/ic24gy.html

Or try the Hiromoto: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/higykn24.html

If you have never liked a wa handle it's no use beating your head against a wall. Both of these are excellent western handled knives.

If you are patient the Kohetsu HAP40 would be an excellent choice but it's still in production and they have been dragging their ass on it a little (nothing new).



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:39 pm 
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BTW here is the arashiyama set. It would be a better purchase than a knife for you currently: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/4pcshstset.html



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:10 pm 
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DAN <> I typed a text last night that echoes CKTG's last entry; it was erased as the forum is very quirky in the middle of the morning... I reckon, diagnostics.

Anyhow, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your knife & a full sharpening setup is way more fitting.

Here's your STONE SET, and a strop set; it's double duty. They allow refinement beyond your stones in less expensive options, and they work to true your blade as a steel would but w/o degrading your high grit finishes.



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 Post subject: Re: The best knife for the $
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:15 pm 

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Just focus on the sharpening equipment for now. All of Mark's sets are great, but my tendency is toward this set http://www.chefknivestogo.com/3pcset.html. I just love the latte and UME stones. By finishing with a Rika you will be in great shape.

Add a holder and flattener and you will have everything you need. You could by the $50 kit, but for only $10 more you get two strops to play with http://www.chefknivestogo.com/stsetwiunhob.html.

There you go for my $0.02 . . .



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