Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:06 pm
I had a 1K/6K hand me down stone from a good friend of mine that has recently met its end (my roommates are idiots and don't treat my stuff with respect and broke it). I only have a relatively new Imanishi 10K stone. I really want to know what kind of progression (coarse -> fine -> finish) to go with now. Some recommendations would be greatly appreciated as I am still new to sharpening knives with stones. I am trying to build up my skills to fix knives that have been broken due to a lack of care by their owners. I am pretty set on just adding a low grit (<1k) and a fine grit (4-6K) stone to finish off the progression. I know that the Imanishi 10K is a very lovely and good stone to use to touch up my knives. However, I know it is not ideal to solely rely on a really high grit stone for knives that are heavily used (I work full-time in a hotel kitchen in Banquets where obviously a lot of prep is done and on a line where I am always prepping or chopping things for orders).
Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:19 pm
A lot of people really like the 1K/6K Arashiyama stone set: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/4pcshstset.html
. I would think Mark will have it back in stock soon.
If you're regularly sharpening some dull knives that need new edge bevels cut, I'd highly recommend that you get a good coarse stone as well. It makes these jobs soooo much easier than trying to use a 1K. You'll save wear & tear on your 1K as well.
Some good coarse stones:
Latte 400: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/la400grst.html
Shapton Glass 500: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shgl500gr.html
Shapton Glass 320: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shaptonglass1.html
Shapton Pro 320: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shaptonpro320x.html
Nubatama Ume 320: http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nubatama320.html
Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:23 pm
How does the 4 pc work? I mean the 1K and 6K are pretty self explanatory. However, I am not familiar with the other two pieces.
Also, I do a lot of work on other peoples knives at work who have really dull knives. Right now I am doing basic edge reforming and tip work for free. However, they keep abusing their knives and asking me (a 21 year old kid) when they have been working and cooking for more than I have been alive. I think it is kind of weird, but oh well, I kind of have a purpose there since I am always fixing people's knives.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:03 pm
Bester 500 or Latte 400 (bester is faster, scratchier finish, Latte is slower/smoother finish), Bester 1200/Nubatama 1K Ume Medium (Bester is a bit faster, Nubatama leaves a cleaner finish), Rika 5K is my go to set up. The 400/500 are great for thinning, chip removal, repairing small tip issues, etc. If you do a lot of tip reprofiling, look at a Harbor Freight 1x30 belt sander, much faster than stones, especially a 500 stone. For major repairs, maybe look at the Nubatama 150?
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:09 pm
My mentor who got me into stones told me if I kept doing major tip repairs (last knife I fixed up was missing half an inch off the top), I should just use a brick! All jokes, aside how much is a sander? I like working stones, however with how many people are finding out about my ability to use whetstones to a pretty decent degree... they keep asking me to fix all of the knives in house and their own knives as well. :/
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:26 pm
The other two pieces in the 4pc set are a deburring block and a jewlers loupe. The block is used by cutting lightly into it with the edge to remove any burr remaining on the edge between stones. The loupe is used to look at the bevel as you sharpen to check your progress. It is not really used to look exactly at the edge, but rather to observe the uniformity and consistency of the scratch patter left as you progress through your stones.
The Harbor Freight 1x30 belt sander is good value for the money. They run ~$40. I own one and it is great for many tasks, though I rarely use it on cutlery. I use it all the time on axes, lawnmower blades, and other tools though.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:32 pm
this stuff is all on the site right? lol.
Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:12 am
If you're doing a lot of sharpening, the idea is to have the coarsest stones doing the majoity of the work. Depending on your needs, I may suggest an Atoma #140.http://www.chefknivestogo.com/at14dipl.html
It will remove metal quickly and you'll have a way to flatten your stones.
You could progress to a coarse stone like the Nubatama 400http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nubatama4.html
Or the latte 400http://www.chefknivestogo.com/la400grst.html
+1 to the Glass Stone 500
The 4pc set would work well for the next progression of stones.
If you need something bigger, the red brick may witk well for you. http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shak1gr1.html
The Imanishi 4k would fit in well between 1k and 10k. http://www.chefknivestogo.com/im4kst.html
Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:25 am
Thanks for the suggestions.
Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:37 am
$40 at Harbor Freight, great for fixing tips and rounding spine/choil areas, too:http://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-x-30- ... xloBc74iM0
You just have to go slow and make sure you don't overheat the steel. I wouldn't go over 220 grit with the 1x30 (finer grits heat up steel faster), but it will work well for re profiling tips and stuff much faster than a stone will!
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