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Shapton or Naniwa?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:56 pm

I'm in the market for a stone that would create an edge toothy enough to cut through material like rope but polished enough to shave if that makes any sense. I sharpen from kitchen to survival type knives; mostly western style knives. I prefer splash and go stones. I was thinking between shapton and naniwa stones.

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:48 pm

There are different approaches to this, so take my advice as only one such way.

Not a huge fan of the feel of most Shapton's, so if we're talking Naniwa Chocera's, I'd have to pick them over the Shapton's whether you were talking Pro or GlassStones. If you're talking Naniwa Superstone's.....well, let's say you're not.

That said, and moving forward as though we were picking the Chocera's.....I'd get:

400
1,000
3,000

Then get a strop with some diamond spray:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/haamstkit.html

A well refined edge, stropped on diamond spray is toothy yet refined.

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:10 pm

I have Shapton glass stones - 500, 1,2,4,8 K; if splash and go is important, they are great. Very uniform and cut quickly.
That said, I have Choseras as well (same grits ranges) and find, for me, they cut just a bit quicker. But then there is the soak time.
In either case, +1 on Adam's comment about the diamond spray - I use it on horse butt and agree with his assessment of "toothy but refined" - like some salesmen I've met!
Tom

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:02 pm

There is no soak time for Choceras, they are made to be spalsh-n-go. Soaking them will shorten there life span.

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:35 am

Jeff B wrote:There is no soak time for Choceras, they are made to be spalsh-n-go. Soaking them will shorten there life span.



...you meant Shaptons...right...?

:)

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:35 pm

Both should not be soaked.

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:55 pm

Chocera are splash-n-go stones and are not supposed to be soaked, Naniwa says not to soak them. There has been a quick rise in people saying they soak their Choceras and a quick rise in people complaining about Chocera stones cracking. Where there's smoke there's fire?

Re: Shapton or Naniwa?

Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:25 pm

I have been using Choseras fairly extensively for the last year. I tried them S/G and soaked and found, for me, they cut quicker and smoother soaked. CKTG blurbs on Choseras note both Naniwa's claim and the results of others who soak. All that said, I rinse/dry each immediately after I finish; drying means setting them on edge on a paper towel in an area with moderate temps and no moving air, flipping to the other edge after an hour. In other words, avoid extreme changes.
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