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Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:26 pm
I am a intermediate sharpener heading into a culinary school in September and looking to bolster up my sharpening gear along with picking up my new knives. I am looking at purchasing a 320, 1k, 4k, 8k, and 16k Shapton's. I was wondering if that is enough progression? I understand anything above 4k is probably not necessary but I've become somewhat obsessed with sharpening and trying to achieve a scary sharp edge.
Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:03 pm
Yes that set will give you more than enough stones to give you a variety of edges from toothy to mirror finish.
Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:35 pm
Thank you for the quick response Mark, I am looking forward to doing business with CKTG as I've heard nothing but good about you and your affiliates. Mr. Knife Fanatic's videos have greatly helped in my deciding on what knives I am choosing to start my collection.
Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 pm
DEREK <> I refrained from commenting when you queried yesterday as you directed your question to Shaun, but since Mark had jumped in, I don't feel the need to refrain anymore.
I only wanted to understand where your head is at as you ask if a 16K progression is "enough," but then acknowledge that "above 4K is probably not necessary."
If you're obsessed with sharpening past the point of diminishing returns, all the more power to you, but understand... the 4k premise you reference is not nonsensical rhetoric. Get the 8K as that can be functional; it produces a stunning mirror if nothing else, but 16k refinement for kitchen knife function, especially knives for a student, is so beyond overkill it's laughable. If one is not getting a ludicrously scary edge off an 8K stone, one doesn't know how to sharpen well enough to even go past 1k. An 8K edge on a hard steel knife is supernatural.
The money you'll save from omitting that stone will buy you a much more functional strop kit & diamond lapping plate for your GS's.
Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:08 pm
I usually stop most of my kitchen knifes at 2k. There are a couple knives I like to take to 4k I have 1 knife I take to 8k just for shits and giggles. the 8k edged is fun to do but nearly worthless, Am edged from 1-4k is the best kitchen working edges.
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:41 am
Thank you all for your input, I think I will just go up to the 8k for now and put the money into another part of my purchase. I had originally directed my question towards Shaun because it's said in his service he uses those stones so I know he has had a lot of experience with them in particular. Perhaps I'll pick up another knife or just upgrade a couple I was already going to purchase. Perhaps I'll post in the other section for some input on the knives I'm looking at. Thanks again everyone.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:20 am
Seriously can't believe I missed these questions. Shows how fast of a reader I am (terrible trait to have as a mod)...
I was about to say, that progression is awesome, and personally I don't take my knives past 8k that much anymore. (okay that's a lie, but still)
Some people argue that a knife stops getting sharp (for kitchen purposes) around the 6k level... and I pretty much agree. 8k is that level where, if you do things right, you are entering razor territory.
4k is my most common stopping grit for Shapton these days, although there are knives that do warrant the full 8k treatment.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:16 pm
Ha ha, don't worry about it at all. I got some great responses from the others as you can see. I will eventually get a higher grit stone than 8k just for kicks. For now I think I'll take the money I was going to put into the stone and put it towards a a 240 AS Laser once more arrive.
There is nothing wrong with turning your life into a razor, tho I do understand it may not be ideal for all kitchen tasks at that point.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:43 pm
DEREK <> The AS Lasers are here in the states, and will be deliverable any second now that logos & handles are being installed. If you want one, that pre-order button guarantees your knife.
Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:44 pm
Wait, there is a pre-order button? I have missed this detail, where can I find it? I did the whole "email me" thing for when it's back in stock, I'm blind tho and missing this pre-order button though. Thanks so much for the help Mel!
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