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 Post subject: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:18 pm 
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So, I was contacted by employee of a Prison who was interested in knives for their kitchen that had some interesting requirements.

Full Tang
Blunt Tip
NSF Approved
Colored handles
Hole in the handle

I got talking to him and the idea came to me that I could totally make and market a knife specific for prisons that met his criteria. It costs a few thousand bucks to do NSF approval so that is the initial barrier to entry but if it were a hit the knife could sell well. What do you guys think? BTW the hole in the handle is so they can tether the knife to the work stations.

Antonio, if you read this tell me what you think about this? You're my only friend that works in a correctional facility.... :)



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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:29 pm 

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reminds me of older models of mac knives.

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pretty good match to what he's looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:22 pm 
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I'll show you what he's using.



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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:51 pm 
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I think this tether hole will need to be in the handle though aye? It would be really hard to use the Mac tethered to that hole in the front of the blade. I nice stainless grommet will likely be called for in the hole in the handle hole?

When you are talking NSF certified think Dexter Russel, Bakers & Chefs, Victorinox Fibrox etc. I don't think any of them are full tang?


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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:28 pm 
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Yes they want it in the handle and I'm pretty sure all of those ones you listed are not full tang.



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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:52 pm 
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Forschners with rosewood handles are full tang-ish, at least as far as having an anchor point for a leash. Perhaps you could round the tip, fit new handle scales and replace the rearmost rivet with a modified one? Or maybe you could get custom blanks from the source? I know that you can get Fibrox-es with round tips, so they could maybe manage it.

If you get it figured out, the same features could appeal to cooking classes in public schools! Man, what I would have given for a decent knife...


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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:35 am 
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Are you sure it was an employee and not a resident that contacted you?Image


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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:58 am 
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chefknivestogo wrote: ...What do you guys think?


...I for one think that it's a rare day when an unoccupied niche of a market you already supply AND MANUFACTURE is dropped in your lap. My next call would have been to Lamson to tell them to be on the lookout for my incoming email of which includes my sketch for the new NSF line I would like to proffer for their manufacturing quote.

Good luck. Oh, and a well deserved congratulations on growing your brand... 8-)



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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
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specially since prisons are the fastest business growing in your country. in a business point of view, that would be a good thing for you. if it pushes through.


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 Post subject: Re: Prison Knives
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:13 pm 
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Huh, that's interesting. Perhaps contact some other prisons to see if the same properties are universal to the industry. If so, it would seem to be a great idea.



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