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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:17 am 

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Ok, now while I wait for the new batch of anything to come in I have a little bit of breathing room. I was initially going to wait for the kono HH then read about the m390 and shape of the ultimatum and also read some good things about the kanehiro ginsan. 3 different steels but in a practical sense what is the benefit. Also, 3 different profiles as well as price. 183, 200 and 250 respectively. Will a home cook see a difference? Thanks...Dave


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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:11 am 

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I've been waiting and happened to get the email at lunch. I snagged one of the first ones, they should come with serial numbers :D

Really looking forward to comparing this knife with the 19C27 in terms of sharpening and edge retention. If it works out I'm thinking of a custom handle; but we'll wait to see how the balance with the stock handle turns out to be. Hurry up Mr. Mailman!

I'm still loving the Ultimatum profile; best overall guyto for me so far.


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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:23 am 
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Well, hopefully the next batch will be a little quicker in coming out! Hopefully this means L&G has the manufacturing process figured out.

Hang in there, WickedSharp- the next batch should be along shortly with any luck.


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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:35 am 

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Hahahaha that damn Mark Richmond should give me a commission. I'm busy for a couple of hours and check my email and the m390 Ultimatums are gone! And this is the thanks I get when I offered to buy the entire first run for 10% above retail. It's a cold cold world.



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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:18 am 

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The much anticipated M390 arrived in my mailbox today!

File comment: 19C27 left M390 right
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The original Ultimatum in 19C27 steel is on the left, the new M390 version on the right.

The M390 is a bit lighter than the original, 167g versus 204g
The M390 is a bit thinner than the original, approximately 2.5mm at the heel vs 2.8mm
Balance on the M390 is further forward then the original.
Mark has chosen a slightly narrower handle on the M390. I am used to the feel of the original and like the darker wood on the original.
Sharpness was pretty good, although I have my original sharpened up better. I will need to see how the M390 sharpens up.
The tip on my M390 arrived every slightly bent to the left when looking down the spine. I'm not sure how I could fix it; the metal is quite thin and I'd probably only snap it off if I tried. I'm not sure this has any practical impact, but I notice these things and it's the only thing that really bothers me about the knife.

Next we'll see how it stands up to sharpening and use.


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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:06 am 

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If it arrived bent the solution is simple, exchange it for a non bent one. It would be unacceptable for you to be sold a $250 knife with a bent tip.


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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:20 pm 

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Actually, it would be unacceptable to pay $5 for a knife with a bent tip. Return it. And I appreciate you posting the photo. I'm not sure why the handle is smaller than the original. That would explain part of the balance issue. Personally, I prefer larger handles; this is the first attempt of Richmond Knives at using this new steel, and Mark has made changes and improvements in his other knives based on input from customers. So I hope people do post comments when they get their knives.



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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:36 pm 

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MadRookie wrote to WickedSharp in message:
"Your post borders on being flippant - a bent tip could be caused by so many factors, either way I believe that Mark will sort & honor his products - please, I will not warn you again."
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I'm glad you agree that Richmond Knives and Chef Knives to Go will honor their products. That was the point of my post. I do hope people feel free to post trueful feedback about their knives. I have found posts on this forum to be quite valuable, including the post above mine from another subscriber that recommends returning the knife.



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 Post subject: Re: RichMond Ultimatum in M390 steel
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:46 pm 
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I was waiting on one to be delivered yesterday for a new handle, but USPS has a different delivery date in mind I guess.


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