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 Post subject: enkay black
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:22 pm 

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Any idea how it compares to other compounds? to other black compounds?

thanks!

cooldays


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:21 pm 

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no one can help?.....its been over a week....i 'll try one more time


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:55 am 

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FYI - Enkay is a Co. that deals in abrasives.

What does this have to do with CKTG products?


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:58 am 

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i thought this was about sharpening.....maybe you can direct me to a more appropriate forum?


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:49 am 

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Other black compounds? That doesn't narrow it down too much.


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:47 am 
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Compared to other compounds: I believe it's somewhere around 1µ.

Compared to other black compounds: Sorry, don't use any black compounds.

Are you looking for differences in composition of different brands? Is one better than the other?

Elucidation is in order here.............

R



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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Bar compounds are available in a lot of colors, and I've seen very coarse black compounds and black compounds around the 4µ mark.

Color says nothing about the compound I'm afraid.



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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:08 pm 

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richinva wrote:Compared to other compounds: I believe it's somewhere around 1µ.

Compared to other black compounds: Sorry, don't use any black compounds.

Are you looking for differences in composition of different brands? Is one better than the other?

Elucidation is in order here.............

R


Thank you so much. I apologize and think you are right. You don't really understand why i am asking.

Ok... i bought a strop and I was going to buy 2 compounds for the 2 sides. I read a few reviews and decided on DMT strop and was going to get bark river white and black compounds. I went shopping for black and found this enkay black in a 1 lb block for less money than a small amount of the bark river so i bought it.

well my sharpening is worse off thanks to this decision. It says it is "emery" and was made for sanding wheels to work metal. I imagine something like someone making a new tailpipe for a fancy car rebuild or something. In any case it is a little to rough I imagine.

so I was very impressed with the "grit chart" and wondered if anyone had any idea where it fell on the spectrum.

I now strop with bark river white which is very hard to apply to a strop but works well and a strop with green compound I bought that was already applied and I suspect smoother than other green compounds, as a few of you have mentioned, the color alone is not indicative of the grit.

I just am trying to learn about compounds/stropping. I want knives that are sharp and effective just like the you all.

thanks

cooldays


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 Post subject: Re: enkay black
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:59 pm 

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Enkay does not publish the abrasive size so it's not possible to correlate it to anything on the grit chart. Enkay does show it as the coarsest compound it makes and says it is an "excellent cutting compound", which to me would mean something like 100 to 200 JIS grit equivalency, so it's no wonder to me that you found it a little "rough".

http://www.enkaypolishing.com/polishing ... ctions.pdf
http://www.enkaypolishing.com/blackemer ... pound.aspx

Bark River compounds have the following equivalencies:
Black == 3000 JIS;
Green == 6000 JIS;
White == 12000 JIS.

The strop you bought probably is loaded with chromium oxide, which at 0.5 micron is roughly 30000 JIS grit equivalency.

My personal recommendation is 1 micron diamond spray on plain leather as the only stropping medium. YMMV.


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