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 Post subject: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:33 am 
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I posted this posting in another thread, but it really belongs in the sharpening section.

I thought I'd give an overview of the various compounds I carry - in various formulations, a wide range of grits and several compounds. This should help you select which product interests you. This overall product selection I carry includes both polycrystalline diamond and monocrystalline diamond products, as well as CBN, Boron Carbide and Alumina Suspensions.

These are available in several formulations - sprays, water soluble suspensions, water soluble emulsions and oil based pastes. All but the pastes are able to be used on waterstones and of course strops including nanocloth, Kangaroo, cow and horse leather and paper, cardboard, etc.

Mono and poly diamond are available in grit sizes ranging from 0.025 microns to 4 microns in sprays and emulsions. Poly at 0.015 available in limited quantities on request (1.2 million grit)

CBN is available in sprays, emulsions and pastes in grit sizes ranging from 0.1 microns to 80 microns. Some coarser grits 200-300 microns available on request.

Boron carbide is available in emulsion only (water soluble) in grit sizes from 0.5 microns to 16 microns. Mark carries 0.5 1 and 2 microns.

Alumina Suspensions - which are also a water soluble emulsion are available in 1 micron, 0.3 microns and 0.050 microns.

Paste formulations are the most restrictive in use being used primarily on linen and leather belts and powered equipment. Emulsions are also ideal to use on powered equipment, nanocloth and leather strops and are the most versatile. Boron Carbide comes in only this formulation for this reason. Sprays can be used anywhere other than powered applications, where they do not adhere to moving belts as well as the emulsion and paste formulations. They are also quick drying so they can be used within a minute of being applied.

I am planning on restocking Mark with Kangaroo leather and nanocloth strops in an even wider range of options than currently available - 1x6, 2x6 aluminum backed, glass backed 3x8 and 3x11 and magnetic backed for use on Mark's new base in both 3x8" and 3x11". I also have balsa backed nanocloth and Kangaroo with magnetic backing also in 3x8 and 3x11. Additionally for those requiring or requesting 1x6 and 2x6" nanocloth and Kangaroo with an additional glass backing between the Aluminum blank and the strop material these are also available.

Diamond films in two types are also still available - light and heavy duty. These are available in all sizes 1x6, 2x6, 3x8 and 3x11. ALL of these are glass backed and range in grit from 165 microns to tenth micron. This is monocrystalline diamond.

While there are various grit sizes not available in all compounds and formulations, grit sizes in microns include:

0.015 poly spray only
0.025 poly and mono spray and emulsion
0.050 poly and mono spray and emulsion, Alumina
0.1 poly and mono spray and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste
0.25 poly and mono spray and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste
0.3 Alumina
0.50 poly and mono spray and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste
0.75 CBN spray emulsion and paste
1 poly and mono spray and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste, Alumina
1.5 CBN spray emulsion and paste
2 poly and mono spray and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste
4 poly and mono spray, gel suspension and emulsion plus CBN spray emulsion and paste
8 mono emulsion plus CBN gel suspension, emulsion and paste
16 mono emulsion plus CBN gel suspension, emulsion and paste
30 CBN gel suspension, emulsion and paste
45 CBN gel suspension, emulsion and paste
80 CBN gel suspension emulsion and paste
200 CBN gel suspension emulsion and paste
300 CBN gel suspension emulsion and paste

Note that gel suspensions are used past 4 microns rather than deionized water sprays to keep the particles in suspension as they would otherwise settle too quickly in a simple deionized water spray.

The coarser grits work quite nicely with both synthetic and natural stones and also work quite nicely with nanocloth, one of the most neutral strops available. Of course nanocloth works quite well with ultrafine particles, but requires some abrasive particles to be of use. Kangaroo leather can be used both with and without compounds and provides the finest level of abrasion of any leather strop, plus a level of burnishing that is not noticeable with nanocloth to any significant degree.

Also to reduce the confusion, Mark has never carried the CBN in a paste formulation.

I know this is a lot of data to digest I hope I stated in in an understandable way. I can always be reached if you want any of my products. The PM box here is always overflowing so just contact me directly with questions at 209 612 2790 or ksskss@earthlink.net . I can also be reached on Skype if you want to chat especially if you are overseas.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:58 am 
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Here are some group photos of my products.

Polycrystalline diamond emulsions:
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Polycrystalline diamond sprays or slurries. (spray tops for sprays, Ketchup tops for emulsions and pastes) :
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Mono Diamond emulsions
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Mono diamond slurries /sprays. More available grits on request.
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CBN (Cubic Boron Nitride) Emulsions
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CBN Slurries or sprays
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CBN suspensions. These are instead of slurries for particles 4.5 microns and heavier which settle quickly if used in a spray slurry formula
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CBN pastes. These are oil soluble rather than water soluble Can be used on leather and linen but NOT on waterstones
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A larger group shot of CBN sprays, suspensions and emulsions
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Boron Carbide emulsion formulations
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Alumina Emulsion in 1 micron, 0.3 microns and 0.050 microns. Pardon the casual labels :)
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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:11 am 

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Would you recommend diamond films or CBN sprays for sharpening of ceramic knives? Or maybe you recommend something completely different?


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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:11 am 
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Films in the coarser grits specifically for ceramic knives. In coarser grits, they work better than the plates which cause more chipping for the same grit. For 1 micron to 0.1 CBN or Poly sprays or emulsions and poly sprays or emulsions below tenth micron.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:37 am 

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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
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Hi Ken, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to offer a "Sampler Pack" or Intro pack to your items. A pack of 3 or 4 compounds in smaller than the regular size, but sold together. I think this would sell well. just an idea


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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:38 pm 
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Of the compounds that I sell, monocrystalline diamond is less expensive than either CBN or Poly. The emulsion formulations can be put in a syringe rather than a spray bottle, so I am offering the Mono emulsion formulations in syringe sized quantities as a low cost alternative over the full range from 0.025 to 16 microns. This formulation spreads more easily and efficiently than other available brands of monocrystaline compounds available in syringes and I believe (and will test this) that they are of higher concentration too. This way if you need coarser or finer compounds for your application, you can select your own sampler pack. I have not compromised one bit in terms of quality standards for these samplers. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:17 pm 

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Hey Ken thanks for this write up. When Sadden sees this he is going to drool. Shoot he will probably order two of each. LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:29 pm 

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Who are you kidding? Sadden probably already HAS two of each!


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 Post subject: Re: Sharpening compounds
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ken123 wrote:Of the compounds that I sell, monocrystalline diamond is less expensive than either CBN or Poly. The emulsion formulations can be put in a syringe rather than a spray bottle, so I am offering the Mono emulsion formulations in syringe sized quantities as a low cost alternative over the full range from 0.025 to 16 microns. This formulation spreads more easily and efficiently than other available brands of monocrystaline compounds available in syringes and I believe (and will test this) that they are of higher concentration too. This way if you need coarser or finer compounds for your application, you can select your own sampler pack. I have not compromised one bit in terms of quality standards for these samplers. Hope this helps.

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Sounds great. I do think this is helpful. Being able to test the waters a bit before diving in heard first is sometimes a good thing! I'll be on the lookout for them.

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