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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:06 pm 

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Yeah at 150 mm he could be shopping around for a 150 mm gyuto instead of a 150 mm petty. Being that the wife uses a short chefs a 150 mm gyuto rather than a petty would be the solution. Couldn't find a 150 mm gyuto but some petty's are pretty tall at 33+ mm in height. The Katsushige Anryu Kurouchi Petty 150 is like a small gyuto. Couldn't tell what steel its made of, might be stainless, fit and finish is beautiful according to the reviewer.

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/kaankusupe15.html

I decided to get a similar petty the tojiro itk shirogami 150 petty after discovering that there are tall pettys. This is not suitable for him, I just wanted to try a carbon knife and this was inexpensive and white #2 should be nice start:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/toshitk15pe.html

Alternatively consider a short santoku, 165 mm. Plenty of knuckle clearance and multi function. Lots of celeb chefs have switched from chefs knives to santokus for good reason. Plenty of stainless steel ones to choose from.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:48 pm 

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I am guessing the Anryu petty is Blue #2 like the his hammered knives, so the core steel would be reactive.

The Tojiro Shirogami/ITK is crazy reactive.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:27 pm 

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That anryu is white #2, so likely more reactive than the hammer in blue#2. FWIW, there is the masakage mizu, with real similar dimensions/weight, is blue, kurouchi, same bladesmith as the anryu kuruouchi. I have the mizu 150mm petty, it is reactive, but you've got some time before you see any discoloration on it after use. Not a half hour, but not 30 seconds like my ITK.

Completely agree with the Torijo ITK - most reactive knife I have.

All that said, at 33-34mm, she'd have to have pretty petite hands to be able to use it in a pinch grip with knuckle clearance.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:05 pm 

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"That anryu is white #2, so likely more reactive than the hammer in blue#2."

Great to know. Is that listed on the site?


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm 

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On the lead Anryu page - http://www.chefknivestogo.com/kaan.html. hammered is stainless clad blue #2 (and an awesome blade - have the suji and it is a looker)...KU is white #2.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:06 pm 

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Ah..great. I will go find my dunce hat now :(

I actually own the hammered 240mm, great knife.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:13 pm 

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cedarhouse wrote:Ah..great. I will go find my dunce hat now :(

I actually own the hammered 240mm, great knife.


Ha ha. You have to scrounge for the source a bit on that one. Usually it is in the item description or item name. Not so on the Anryu KU. The only reason I picked up on your statement was that I was admiring the Anryu KU nakiri and the price point, and wondering what metal it was. White is hard for me on many knives because they don't always get wiped down quickly.

Glad to hear you like the 240mm.


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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:06 pm 

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I finally got a chance to measure the wife’s knife (Wusty). As I mentioned before I want to replace her knife (details below) with a 150 mm petty. It must have western handle, full stainless steel or stainless clad with stainless core, good F+F, crazy sharp, and good edge retention while being easy to sharpen. The wife currently uses this one knife for 100% of her knife work. I want to keep the new knife as similar as possible (shape) but increase length to 150 vs. 134 she uses now. Basically, that eliminates my selection to only tall 150 MM petty, no santoku etc

The Wusty is
weight: 4.3 oz
blade length: 134mm
total length: 254mm
blade height:32 mm

Sakai Takayuki 63 Layer Damascus 150mm Petty
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/sata12pe.html
No details on website for height etc? I am not sure but I thing it is stainless clad over stainless core?

Haruyuki 150mm Petty
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/hasrs15post1.html
blade height: 29.09mm and SRS15. People on forum seem excited about R-2 so this is no longer in the running. I suspect R-2 easier to sharpen and hold an edge better but that is a guess on my part.

Tanaka Petty 150mm Iron Wood
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tanakapetty.html
This seems to be top dog on the block with a top dog price. I should remove it from my list but I can hold of an extra month before ordering and come up with money. blade height: 32.58mm that’s the best one yet


Takamura Migaki R-2 Petty 150mm
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/takamura2.html
very very strong contender. Only half of my budget. R-2. blade height:29.15mm is the only bad news. I would like to be over 30 mm

Maruyoshi HD Petty 150mm - 6"
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/hapakn.html
great alternative. blade depth: 31.13mm. Meets my above 30 mm criteria. However, it is VG10. My drug dealers forum has made me believe R-2 is better for edge retention and sharpening but again that’s a guess on my part.

Suisin Inox Petty 150mm
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/suinpe15.html
carbon but website says rust resistant. It is under 30 mm so its out.

My questions are..
1. Does anyone have details on Sakai Takayuki 63 Layer Damascus 150mm Petty
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/sata12pe.html I need to know height? Mark gets back next week, I can wait till then.

2. If all things were equal (they are not) in terms of edge retention and ease of sharpening.. rank these
SRS15
R-2
VG10
SG-2 (is SG-2 same thing as R-2)

thanks

El

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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:12 pm 
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Shame it's out of stock, I'd prefer it over all the ones listed except maybe the Tanaka. http://www.chefknivestogo.com/fujiwara4.html



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 Post subject: Re: Petty wanted 150 mm
PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:14 pm 
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I would almost wait and see if the Richmond Laser AS 150mm come back into stock soon.
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riaosulape16.html

I have the 120 that I replaced my school pairing knife with, and it's almost exactly like a tiny little gyuto

the 150 is taller too.


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