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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:56 pm 

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Last night I got frustrated and took the spine to the stones to try to even that out. I figured since the spine is basically a built in honing guide, if I straightened that, maybe the edge would come together. Didn't seem to work out. I can't get a section, about 25%, about 25% in from the toe (if that makes any sense) to reach an apex. It must eventually apex if I keep grinding, I mean high spots will wear, low spots would finally make stone contact, maybe I just need a coarse stone and wear it down till I have even contact. What I might do it tape the spine, so that there is less surface area in contact with the stone at the bevel and see if I can reach an edge that way.

As far as stones flatness, I take my DMT Extra Coarse to each stone before I use the stone.


None the less, it's possible it is a stone flatness problem.

It's possible my honing technique is shit.

It's possible the blade is somehow defective (I am going to assume it is me, I am far more often defective than most things :))

It's possible that I simply need to spend enough time on a coarser stone to reach a consistent bevel and edge.

But I am stumped how to begin narrowing down my troubleshooting.


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:59 pm 

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BTW, I appreciate everyone's help. If I sound at all dismissive or short, it is just my frustration coming through, but you guys are great. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:36 am 
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http://straightrazorplace.com/honing/107476-ti-le-dandy-honing-headache.html

I just saw this last night. Seems like a great (easy) way to check the spine

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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:39 am 

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Thats a brilliant idea, thanks for bringing it to my attention Chris. It late now, but I will be finding some glass and giving this a go tomorrow. At least it'll let me eliminate warpage as a cause.


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:15 am 
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No problem! I was shocked at the simplicity of it as well and up until last night had never heard of that particular 'test'

Chris


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:51 pm 

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From what I can see with the test, the blade is getting light contact in the places where the edge seems relatively untouched by the stones. So it looks like I am getting contact across the entire edge, but it is not consistent contact. Don't really know what to make of that.


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:54 pm 

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Taped the spine and honed from 800 to 8k. Got sharp enough to shave. The toe and heel were actually very comfortable. The middle was crap.


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:08 pm 

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Ok so I think I am making some progress.

I ground the spine with the 800 grit King until I had a flat, consistent width grind path on the spine.

I then added one layer of electrical tape then honed the razor through the entire progression 800, 1200, 4k, 6k, 8k, then stropped on balsa with 1 micron diamond spray and balsa with 1/2 micron diamond spray. It was one of the better shaves I have had recently.

I can see the bevel is still somewhat inconsistent but I think I am getting better contact on the stones now so I hope this will correct with the next honing session. I just ordered a new 1k stone from Ken and when it arrives I will try to reestablish the bevel anew in hopes I can get a nice consistent bevel all the way across.

For the first time in about 5 weeks, clean shaven...YAY!


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:07 am 
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Congrats! I've had a couple troublesome blades in the past. Sometimes its just best to set it down and walk away for a few... Glad to see you overcame your problems! :)

Chris


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 Post subject: Re: honing problems on a Dovo carbon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:14 am 
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Well, I hope you get it worked out to your satisfaction.



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