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 Post subject: Re: Pressure on your sharpening stroke?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:17 pm 

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Good insight guys. Where can I find ken's videos on sharpening?


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 Post subject: Re: Pressure on your sharpening stroke?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:29 am 
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Med - light pressure ~ edge leading, is all I need. :)

You can probably find 'em on Youtube...

Ken's around here pretty often, so maybe he'll chime in.



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 Post subject: Re: Pressure on your sharpening stroke?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:31 am 

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desol, I would have said the same thing before I tried light pressure on edge trailing.
Not easy for me to say, 30 years of doing it one way.

At the end of the day, perhaps there is no difference with the end result.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:56 am 
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If you look on our site for the nubatama stones Ken does videos for each page and there are lots of good sharpening tips in them besides the discussion of the stones. Ken, Murray, Salty all taught me how to sharpen.

I don't think I change pressure between forward and backward strokes. I do decrease pressure as I move up the stone progression. By the time I'm stropping on leather I'm barely kissing the edge so I don't mess up the edge I just produced.

Experimenting on different techniques is part of the fun of sharpening.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:06 am 
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Sailor wrote:desol, I would have said the same thing before I tried light pressure on edge trailing.
Not easy for me to say, 30 years of doing it one way.

At the end of the day, perhaps there is no difference with the end result.


No edge-trailing for me. Heavy or soft. :)
There is a BIG difference in the end result...the time spent, the metal wasted, etc.

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chefknivestogo wrote:Experimenting on different techniques is part of the fun of sharpening.


+1!



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I use equal pressure on for and aft strokes but end each stone with a few VERY light edge leading strokes. This seems to abaid any burr by the time I get through my progression and leaves a very crisp edge. A few light strokes on a strop and I have a lightsaber!

There is more than one way to skin a cat or stroke a blade! :mrgreen:



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Exactly. However, there is no need for any edge~trailing stokes.
Whatsoever. Grind must be compensated for, at some point.

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You can find my videos on youtube under the name kenneths123 and searching for the word 'Nubatama'. Or just go to the Nubatama pages on Mark's site and follow the links to the videos:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nubast.html

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nuumest.html

I really don't think I pay too much attention to the edge leading or trailing component of the stroke, but more attention to the amount of pressure used. But perhaps I am doing something different unconsciously :) Watch my videos and tell me if you see a pattern :)

One of my favorite videos is Adam Marr's (Watercrawl's) video using a 1k Speckled Ume stone. He really demonstrates quite nicely how to extract performance out of a stone :) Worthy of careful study.

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 Post subject: Re: Pressure on your sharpening stroke?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:16 pm 
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I don't know why this just came to me, but I recall someone, somewhere stating their belief that 4 pounds was the ideal pressure to sharpen with, I don't know if that is the case, I certainly don't pay enough attention to it and I can sharpen fine. Perhaps I will try next time.

I like that JeffB said there is no one way to sharpen, that is obviously true. On the forum here there is a diversity of sharpening technique but only one sharpening result; a sharp knife. So, I would say try out different things, go with what does work for you.



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