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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:35 pm 
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Yeah, it does look thin, like 1/4" or maybe a bit less? I found that copper really transfers heat quickly and popped my first liner I did with it when I was shaping the front, had to re glue it. I found JB Quik Weld or the regular JB Weld works pretty well and doesn't pop as easily when it gets heated up.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:08 pm 
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I never got this hot at all. I used a milling machine to make a mechanical joint between the copper ferrule and buckeye burl body. The joint was tight enough that I was able to shape the handle to completion without gluing it together. Once it was all shaped, I epoxied it together and all I had to do was hand sand it which built no heat.



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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:19 pm 
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That is awesome to have the machinery to do that!!! I went nuts when I tried my first copper liner, popped off twice I think when I was shaping it. First time was Devcon 2 ton, second time was JB Quik-Weld, but it hadn't fully set up yet. I did the Quik Weld and let it set fully and it finally stayed on the handle material. I think the copper ferrule looks really nice and sets off the wood on your knife!!


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
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Yeah, the mill is a really nice thing to have. Probably won't use it a ton, but when you do it's really handy.

BTW, I really like G Flex epoxy from West for handle work. Best I've tried so far.



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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:44 pm 
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I've been stuck on the JB Quik Weld lately. I can shape out the handle in 30 min to an hour after I epoxy it. If I have a few knives to do, I do one ( cut, drill, shape the front of the handle and epoxy and clamp it) and by the time I am done with the second handle, I can go back and shape out the first one. It's a pain buying it in the little tubes though. I buy 3 or 4 tubes every month, if not more from the local hardware store.

I've been using the MAS Epoxies for laminating my own handle materials, but I haven't found an epoxy from them for attaching the handles to the tang. I will have to give the G flex a try and just let it sit overnight. I would probably glue up several knives, let sit over night and then crank them out the next day. It takes a bit longer. I work 3rd shift at my normal job, so I usually only have a few hours each day to work on blades, unless I have the night off and no fishing rods to build.


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I've always avoided JB Weld in any form of handle construction except the odd time when I use it for gluing pins/bolts in place. There was a "Glue Wars" some time ago when a myriad of epoxies and glues and what not were all tested extensively and JB Weld came in consistently in the bottom when adhering wood to metal.



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I've been using it for years with no problems, even used it back late 90's-early 2000's when I was doing the whole knifemaking thing from barstock. Go figure! From one of the reviews I had seen from various knifemakers, the JB weld did better than many other ones. Lots of guys use Arca-glass type epoxies, too.


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Any time you are using copper you have to be careful not to overheat. Many epoxies, even G-Flex, which I swear by, will break down when overheated. Any time I get asked to use copper, I know am in for a long shaping process because you have to take it so slow.

That Adam was able to shape it off the handle is pretty cool, especially considering how soft copper is. I really just keep coming back to this thread to stare at that piece.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
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Yeah, taz, it's weird. In the end, we all have to use what works best for us. :)

kalaeb, thanks! :)



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 Post subject: Re: Adam Marr's Work
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watercrawl wrote:Yeah, the mill is a really nice thing to have. Probably won't use it a ton, but when you do it's really handy.

BTW, I really like G Flex epoxy from West for handle work. Best I've tried so far.


Adam,

Do you also use the G Flex for wa handles?

Thanks.

Rich

PS Having a mill is always better than not having a mill............................



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