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 Post subject: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:10 pm 

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I'm in the market for a new 210mm gyuto.
I prefer something with a thinner blade.

The Itou-san's knives have really caught my eye.
I know they are powdered R2 steel, same as the Tanaka knives and performance-wise similar to the Shun SG2 steel.


I'm a home cook and don't work on the line.
I love cooking and I love the tools I get to work with.
I would love a pretty knife as well, so I'm going with a damascus patterning.


I'm wondering if you guys have any suggestions on an alternative other than Tanaka (which is now the son?) and Itou.

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cheers guys,
and thanks for you input!


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:24 pm 

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I have a Mr. Itou 195mm gyuto with a stag handle, if you're interested. His handles are very comfortable and the nicest I've seen.

PM me.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:53 am 
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CULVER <> I don't know you're going to get much thinner than the 2mm spined Tanaka, but the Saji <-- link is a well respected example of powder steel.



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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:21 pm 
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http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tasa24gy.html

Another of the Takeshi Saji examples.

Doesn't have a powdered steel core, but a very nice knife:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/sata24wa.html

If carbon is an option, these are very nice:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tska24gy.html



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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:04 pm 
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We just got these in and they're sweeeeet. He uses R2 and the damascus on the knives is very original and excellent:
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shkakn.html



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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:50 pm 

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chefknivestogo wrote:We just got these in and they're sweeeeet. He uses R2 and the damascus on the knives is very original and excellent:
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/shkakn.html


I saw those. Are they clad? Any specs; weight, height width, type of grind, HRC, laser/workhorse etc?


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:18 pm 

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Melampus wrote:CULVER <> I don't know you're going to get much thinner than the 2mm spined Tanaka, but the Saji <-- link is a well respected example of powder steel.


Yeah, the Tanaka 210 ironwood is also very, very high on the list of options.
Can anybody give me a bit more background about the Tanaka?
I remember hearing that this isn't the same Tanaka as from a couple years back.
I spoke to a knife shop that said and from what I remember, they said it's now the son or nephew that took over and quality suffered a bit and they had to send a lot of knives back as they weren't up to par.
Has the situation changed?



Adam Marr wrote:http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tasa24gy.html

Another of the Takeshi Saji examples.

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If carbon is an option, these are very nice:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tska24gy.html

I would prefer not going carbon.
Having a couple carbon steel pans and roasting pans, I just don't like the idea.
I find the rate that they rust alarming. 1 drunken cooking session and I might end up leaving my knife in the sink :roll:


Damn. Those Takeshi Saji knives also look phenomenal too!
I think I do want to aim for a thinner blade.

Short of shooting for the moon and trying to acquire a secondhand Hattori KD, do you have anymore suggestions in terms of top-tier knives?


Again, I am trying to keep to these requirements.
- 210mm Gyuto
- Damascus clad
- Higher end steel (powdered?)
- Western handle, preferably with some sort of patterning.
- I like the color red. It's safe, I can see it out of the corner of my eye, and it reminds me what happens if I get sloppy.

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What are your thoughts on re-handling?


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:41 pm 
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What do you guys think about me picking up Itou's knives? I have access to them.



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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:06 pm 
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They're amazing knives. Great F&F, great blades, nice steel...etc.

Some of the handle combo's are not for me....but personal tastes are just that.



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 Post subject: Re: Alternative to Itou
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:28 pm 

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I'll go further than Adam. After looking at the webpage of an online reseller that seems to carry pretty much the entire Itou line I have to say the majority of them are gaudy to the point of garishness. It hurts my eyes to look at them. Even the box they come in is blinged out to the max.


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