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 Post subject: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Hi,

I have been avidly reading your forums and have found great
information. Since most of my sharpening is done on an EdgePro
Professional, I have been looking to completely replace the stock set
of stones it came with.

I sharpen mostly for friends and relatives, and work mostly with
german steel such as Henckel and Wustof. Since most of them severely
neglect their blades I always seem to find myself repairing seriously
abused knives (10+ years w/o sharpening). I have worn out two of the
EP 120 stones already.

From the information on the forums I was going to go with the shaptons
since most people call them "Splash and Go", but I am now more
interested n the hard-wearing
Nubatamas.

At the least I would like to purchase the Nubatama 120 or 150 to
replace my EP 120.

What would you recommend to replace a set of EP stones in 120, 220,
400, 600, 1k grits? I don't think the soaking required of the chosera
stones would be good for my use but would be willing to consider them.

Also, do you have a date when you expect your Nubatama stones to be
back in stock?

Thank you for your time.

Jason



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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:49 pm 
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Hi Jason,

I would recommend:

Atoma 400 plate for bevel setting.
Shapton Glass 1K
Shapton Glass 2K
Shapton Glass 4K
Shapton Glass 8K

The shaptons are the best stones on the market for the Edge Pro in my opinion. They're just ideal. On the low end since all stones wear more quickly I like a diamond plate like the Atoma since it won't dish and will last a long time.

If you wanted to experiment with a Nubatama try the Ume 1K. I like that stone a lot.



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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:13 am 
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For the type of knives you are sharpening I would recommend the 140 Atoma for the EP and the 150 Bamboo to remove the 140 scratches rapidly. Then jump to the 1k Ume Speckled stone (at the bottom of the page) and the 5k Bamboo and you should be set. You can also add the 400 Bamboo too. The 5k Bamboo is more than enough for the types of knives you are mentioning. IF you find the 1 to 5k jump too large, add the 2k Ume inbetween. The 150 Bamboo should be in within the week.

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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:55 pm 

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Finally the Nubatama 150's are back in stock! Thanks again for the replies guys.

My EP stones are still in OK shape, but it was almost time for another EP120. I ordered my Nubatama Bamboo 150 today, and once my EP220 and 400 go I think I will go for the Shapton Glass 1k and 2k to compare.

I got my Atoma 140 around xmas and haven't used it much since I basically fixed everything on the EP120 already, I didn't realize from the picture that it was mounted on a stone blank. To keep the angle closer to the stones without re-adjusting with an angle cube, it would've been nice to mounted it on a tape blank like this one here:

https://www19.corecommerce.com/~edgepro ... lt1_lg.jpg

Any chance that will change or be an option in the future?


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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
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I agree with Mark.
Shapton Glass all the way and the Atoma 400 for the icing on the cake.
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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:17 am 
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Shaptons all the way!



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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
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Sandboxmimja> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6168&hilit=stop%20collar and http://www.chefknivestogo.com/5drstcowhexk.html

The stop collar makes the EP soooooooo much easier with whatever stone or plate you use ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:20 am 
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Even if you go with the GlassStones, the Nubatama Bamboo 150 will boost up the options with the Shapton stones on the low end. If someone wants the Atoma plates for the EP mounted on a riser, I have that as custom option. Mark isn't going to carry the Atomas at varying heights but I will do this as a custom option. Do bear in mind that over time all of your stones will wear at different rates so it is good to use something like the stop collar to account for these variations.

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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
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You reworked everything with the EP 120? When you were done did your arm look like Quagmire's when he discovered internet porn? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Shaptons or Nubatamas
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 5:14 pm 
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For the amount of repair work your doing you will definately want a 140Atoma/150Nubatama combo. The Atoma has a lot of dig , allowing it to remove lots of metal in a hurry. The 150 Nubatama while similar "grit" is slightly finer and helps you convert from those extremely deep diamond scratches to a synthetic scratch pattern. The 220 Pro also works here although the nubatama is faster.

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