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 Post subject: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:24 pm 
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Hello,

I'm looking to buy a gyuto, a petty, and a paring stainless knives with western handles. I've narrowed down to three brands - Mac Pro, Masamoto V, Kikuichi AUS-10.

Can you suggest which I should buy each category. What are pros and cons of each?

Thank you,
Dimitri



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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:25 pm 
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When you ask about a knife please include as much as you can but at minimum answer these simple questions:

1. Are you right handed?
2. What type of knife are you interested in (gyuto and petty)
3. What size knife are you looking for?
4. Do you prefer carbon or stainless steel?
5. Do you prefer a western handle or a Japanese handle? (western)
6. How much did you want to spend?
7. Do you know how to sharpen?



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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:52 pm 

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Hi, thank you for the quick reply.

I'm a home cook upgrading my ten-year-old Mundial Future knife set.

1. Are you right handed?

I'm right handed.

2. What type of knife are you interested in (gyuto and petty)

Gyuto 210mm-240mm
Petty 150mm
Paring 3"-3.5"

3. What size knife are you looking for?

Gyuto 210mm-240mm
Petty 150mm
Paring 3"-3.5"

4. Do you prefer carbon or stainless steel?

Stainless

5. Do you prefer a western handle or a Japanese handle? (western)

Western

6. How much did you want to spend?

Gyuto up to $180
Petty up to $100
Paring 3"-3.5" up to $70

7. Do you know how to sharpen?

I will learn.

Thank you for your suggestions.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:18 pm 
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If you can wait until this comes in stock and up your gyuto budget a touch, it's a fantastic knife:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/ictkcgy21.html

And meets all your criteria. It is "semi-stainless" so it will develop some small discoloration dots, but they are nothing to worry about unless you're OCD like some of us.

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/histg315ut.html

That's a great stainless 150mm petty under $100. I like these a lot.

If you wanted to try stainless clad carbon, it's sibling is even better:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/hiromoto.html

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/kepakn31.html

I still really like this paring knife. Not for it's glorious steel (cause it's not) and not for it's value (cause it's a horrible value) but because it fits my hand so well. More than your budget...but a good choice none-the-less.

Another choice....although I've never seen one personally to know what they're like is the Artifex paring:

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riar80pa12.html



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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:01 pm 

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Thank you Adam. I will definitely consider the knives you've suggested.
What can you tell me about Mac Pro vs Kikuichi AUS-10 vs Masamoto for a gyuto and a petty?


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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:01 pm 
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I apologize, but what Kikuichi uses AUS-10?

And...which Masamoto? I presume the VG series?

Not knowing which Kikuichi we're talking about and my assumed VG series Masamoto....

Both would be similar in steel properties with an edge going to the Masamoto.

The Masamoto, I believe, has a flatter edge profile and perhaps a slightly thinner grind.

Handles are about the same as I recall.



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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:51 pm 

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I'm sorry for confusion. I meant Masamoto VG series.
And Kikuichi from http://www.kikuichi.net/product.php
Here is the description:
"...GM: Gyuto Molybdenum Stainless Steel (HRC 59)
GM series is a very orthodox western style knife, yet it is the Kikuichi’s long time best seller. 12 blades are available from 80 mm (3”) paring knife to 300 mm (12”) Gyuto knife to 150 mm (6”) Honesuki knife to 270 mm (10.5”) Sujihiki knife. The highest grade of Molybdenum AUS10 stainless steel is used for all 12 blades yet prices are very moderate."

It looks like it has the same profile as Kikuichi TKC but it is stainless, which I prefer.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:58 pm 

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Hiromoto Utility Knife 150mm

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/hiromoto.html

Great little knife especially with Adam's handle


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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:53 pm 
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Don't hesitate to buy the TKC based on a fear of what patina/stain it might develop. I've had, and used mine, for years and years and it's been left wet, with food on it, etc. for hours and it's only developed the slightest discoloration in a few spots.



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 Post subject: Re: Help me choose a western handled gyuto and petty
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm 
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The TKC will have a better grind and hold an edge better than AUS10.



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