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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:40 pm 
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The Wa handled Artifex 240mm may not hold it's edge as long if it's the Fujiwara FKM series steel (AUS-8A) and it will be softer as well. The AEB-L version will take a nicer edge and hold it longer, too IMHO. I have converted several Artifex Western handles to Wa handles and thinned/convexed them so they perform better, but the Wa Artifex from Fujiwara should already be nice and thin behind the edge going by what I have seen in their FKM/FKH series in general.

Most 210mm gyuto's have somewhat smaller grips/handles to them. Wa handles are generally longer, but sometimes they are fairly small, too, but they are easily changed out for something larger.


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:55 pm 

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OK, now you're just adding to my confusion! So the 240 Wa is a different steel than the 240 yo? Should I care?


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:18 pm 
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Yes and Yes. The original 240mm Artifex is made from AEB-L steel at 61 rockwell. It will take a nicer edge and hold it longer, but is a little thicker behind the edge and has a small ish handle. The 240mm Wa Artifex (Fujiwara one) is in AUS-8A and at a lower hardness than AEB-L, so it won't hold an edge as long, but it should be a bit thinner behind the edge and have a longer handle than the 240mm Artifex and may be a little shorter height wise at the heel if that is important to you. My hand is around 1/4" shorter than yours, so I have a good idea of what something will feel like in the hand for larger hands.

I have converted the 240mm Western Artifex to Wa handles for customers (and myself) and the handle feels nicer for larger hands.


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:44 pm 

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So excuse my ignorance, but Taz do you work for CKTG? If so, if I want the Western Artifex converted to Wa handle, can I do that when I order it?


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:47 pm 
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Yeah, I do some work for Mark, as well as my own customers. If you want, just have Mark ship the knife to me and I can do it up for you. Shoot me a PM for details, options, pricing, etc if you are interested in this!


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:53 pm 

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Thanks guys - I just ordered the 210mm Artifex with sharpened edge. I'll let you know how much I love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:10 pm 

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Adam Marr wrote:A santoku is a multi purpose knife, but typically smaller, flatter profile. Most real cooks don't like these.


I know the OP already bought the gyuto but I work as a cook and my santoku is my go to knife right along with my gyutos. I actually just bought a Richmond santoku because it is relatively long for a santoku and I am interested in the steel and the price :mrgreen:. I also have too many gyutos otherwise I would have bought the Richmond gyuto. Anyway, interested in seeing what the OP thinks of the knife and I plan on reporting back on mine as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:03 am 

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So, since I'm the OP can you tell me what OP stands for?

Thanks,
Russ


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:08 am 
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Original Poster -- the guy that started the thread

You can always make something up more fun though


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 Post subject: Re: Best bang for the buck. $100 budget.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:32 pm 

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The guy about to be out of pocket?


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