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 Post subject: Re: Stone recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:48 am 
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The Bester 1.2K is hard, fast, and not muddy. As far as what you've described, the only drawback I can think of is that the Bester takes a lot of pre-soak. It is by no means splash and go.

In terms of reach and polish, it's a better stone than the Chosera 800 or 1K. Less prone to crazing, too. It's also quite a bit less expensive than either medium/coarse Chosera. On the negative side, it's not as convenient, and perhaps not quite as fast.

All but the most expensive coarse stones suck. The Beston 500, which also takes a long pre-soak, is -- other than that -- one one of the least sucky. And like the Bester, the Beston is attractively priced for its quality.

If you're going to be moving a LOT of metal, you might want to think about a really coarse stone or a belt sander. I'm not the right person to ask about either.

I have the Beston, Bester and a Chosera 3K in my kit. The Chosera 3K is a very nice finishing stone for knives which won't hold much polish or require a bit of tooth (red meat knives, for instance); and it's a super-easy jump from the Bester. The Bester will reach the Chosera 5K just about as easily.

If you do buy the Bester, my suggestion is to go with the 3K or 5K -- depending on the level of polish you require. The 1.2K's finish is sufficiently slick that you won't need the 3K as an intermediate step to the 5K.

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 Post subject: Re: Stone recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:08 pm 

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Wow BDL, what an informative post!!! Splash and go is no issue seeing as I always plan my sharpening sessions; normally while I am at my kitchen job wanting to get home and sharpen for the next day. I have a lot to think about and all of you guys have given me some great advice. I will let you guys know what I decide upon but feel free to keep the advice coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Stone recommendation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:07 pm 

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Please, a little help with a quick clarification request. A few choices for Nubatama 1Ks - each good in there own way - at the CKTG store. Just confirming . . . I believe those discussed and mentioned are the first 2 below.

Nubatama Bamboo 1K Gold
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nuba1kgo.html

Nubatama Ume 1K Yellow Speckle
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nubatamaume1k1.html

Otherwise, also available are these:

Nubatama Bamboo 1K White
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nu1kbast.html

Nubatama Bamboo 1K Small Grey
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nuba10smsi.html

Nubatama Ume 1K Brick Grey
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/nubatamaume1k.html

Thank you for sharing.

Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Stone recommendation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:38 pm 

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You right


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 Post subject: Re: Stone recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:08 am 
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Actually the Nubatama series aren't all muddy or 'unmuddy', This is exactly the point of Nubatama - to highly customize your choices. The 1200 is VERY muddy. The 1k ume black brick is somewhat muddy. The 1k ume speckled is moderately muddy - broadly suited for a wide range of situations. The 1k Bamboo gold slightly less muddy. The Ume 1k speckled hard and XX hard are not muddy at all, with the XX hard stone closer to a piece of granite - much harder than Shapton stones for instance.

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