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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:33 pm 

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Jeff - I don't understand what you're telling me. 90* would be perpindicular in my mind. Straighten me out please sir.


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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:40 pm 
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How I'm holding the knife in this video:

http://youtu.be/tKYIAqG9DPA

(I still cannot embed, I give up)

So the tip is more forward than the heel on the stone. It allows you more contact with the stone across the edge.



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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:10 pm 
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I'm talking about turning the blade on the stone not standing it up. If you laid your knife flat on a stone and turned it until the blade was straight across the stone it would be at 90*(horizontal) to the stone. Hold the edge at 45* across the stone not 90* across the stone. I hope that is a little more clear.



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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:54 pm 

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Well...DUH!

Thanks...I saw that somewhere else and thought....I'll bet 45 degrees would be better than 90 on most planets. Never occurred to me to look at it in another plane.


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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:31 pm 

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Update:

I'm working on correcting that gouging. Pretty sure if I slow down (impatient SOB that I am) I can prevent such. The update is that I copped an Arashiyama 6000 from CKTG that was the missing link. I don't know if I can stand another improvement. My knives are way past functional and my wife is getting quieter by the day.


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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:40 pm 
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I had to make myself work slower when I first started out. I used to hit the stones like I had been sharpening for decades.
I used to make some of the best 8" chefs butter knives any man has ever held. :geek: Once I started to slow down and pay attention things came together fairly quickly.
As far as the Arashiyama 6k, I have that stone too, great stone.



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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:41 pm 
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WIL <> As is amid life, a consistent rhythm usually gets better results. Blasting through it will usually end up hurting something. Don't rush her, and she'll cum more quickly...



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long forelplay as it were
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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:01 pm 
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Brain farts - we all have them :) A moment's inattention and you've gouged the stone. My most recent gouge was on my 15k Nubatama. I was really pissed at myself. When you say you don't know what happened, it is almost by definition that you didn't perceive that you made an angle change. Similar problem happens with strops where you inadvertently do an edge leading stroke and shave your strop :(

I DON'T grind the stone down to remove the gouge. Clean up the gouge if anything is sticking out above the flat surface and keep using the stone. This is similar to dealing with inclusions in a natural stone where you purposely dig out (with a pick or knife tip) the imperfection to a level below the surface to keep inclusions and 'toxic lines' from interfering with the stone's otherwise good qualities. Sometimes using this strategy, a stone of lower quality can be made to perform well beyond it's initial assessed capabilities.

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 Post subject: Re: What am I doing to cause gouging
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You guys never miss an opening do you. ;)



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