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 Post subject: Questions on multiple kitchen knives
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:44 pm 
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Hello Mark,

Your assistance would be appreciated. I am searching for some excellent knives for use at home cooking so I am leaning toward a Chef Gyuto knife approximately 240 mm. I am a relatively tall guy at 6' 4" with reasonable large hands and long fingers. I like the idea of the knife heel being a little more tall. I am considering some damascus knives including some designed and made for you - Richmond. I like the look of the damascus and certainly think this will be a reasonable good option / choice. I am also considering other knifes besides damascus.

I am really open to hearing your feedback and suggestions for other available excellent knives. People can easily spend time researching and analysing the many knife options available. I have been researching this on and off for a few days now and thought it would be good to share some of the possible knives with someone who knows them better at a sort of expert level.

I am interested in making a purchase today - however - I am happy to wait if necessary. Would you consider helping to possibly narrow the lists below to maybe 3 or 5 knives ?

The 3 Groups:

DAMASCUS INCLUDING RICHMOND - POSSIBLES
NON-DAMASCUS AND NON-RICHMOND - POSSIBLES
RICHMOND AND NON-DAMASCUS - POSSIBLES

1 - DAMASCUS INCLUDING RICHMOND - POSSIBLES

Are you considering carrying the Horimoto - Tenmi Jyuraku Damascus Series - VG10.
http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/Tenmi ... eries.html

$317.00 = TD4 Gyuto Chief 240 mm - 9.5"
$206.00 = TD2 Santoku 180 mm - 7"

If yes, any anticipated / approximate month these might arrive? If no, would you please be so kind as to recommend a potentially comparable damascus knife.

Richmond Damascus
$300.00
OUT OF STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Damascus - 240 mm - 9.45"
CKTG - Richmond Damascus 240
Heel - 54 mm - 2.13"
HRC - 61
Material - Stainless Steel - ATS314
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rida24gy.html

Richmond Damascus
$280.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Damascus - 210 mm - 8.25"
CKTG - Richmond Damascus 210
Heel - 48 mm - 1.89"
HRC - 61
Material - Stainless Steel - ATS314
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rida21gy.html

Tanaka Damascus
$190.00
Chef Gyuto Damascus - 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - TA-SU240GY
HRC - 61
Material - Stainless - Hitachi Blue Paper Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tanakagyuto1.html


2 - NON-DAMASCUS AND NON-RICHMOND - POSSIBLES

Hiromoto Tenmi Jyuraku Series (AS) - Aogami Super Steel
$165.00
OUT OF STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Aogami Super Steel - 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - NGO-202
Hiromoto - TJ20AS
Heel -
HRC - 60 - 62
Material - Stainless Steel - Aogami Super Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/higykn24.html

Hiromoto Tenmi Jyuraku Series (AS) - Aogami Super Steel
$110.00
IN STOCK
Santoku - Aogami Super Steel - 190 mm - 7.5"
CKTG - 190mm Santoku
Hiromoto - TJ35AS
Heel -
HRC - 60 - 62
Material - Stainless Steel Aogami Super Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/hisakn19.html

Horimoto Tenmi Jyuraku Gingami No. 3
$150.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Gingami 3 - 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - NGO-35240
Hiromoto - TJ20G3
Heel - 50.5 mm - 2"
HRC - 60
Material - Stainless Steel - G3
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/histg3gy211.html

Konosuke Addict
$325.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Extra Tall HD Handle Rosewood 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - Konosuke Addict
Heel - 56.7 mm - 2.23"
HRC - 61
Material - Semi-Stainless - HD Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/koadhd24wa.html

Takeda (AS) - Aogami Super Steel
$330.00
OUT OF STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Takeda Aogami Super Steel -240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - Takeda 240 Gyuto
Heel - 51 mm - 2"
HRC - 61 - 62
Material - Forged Stainless Steel - Aogami Super Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tagyas24.html

Tanaka Damascus
$190.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto Damascus - 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - TA-SU240GY
HRC - 61
Material - Stainless - Hitachi Blue Paper Steel
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tanakagyuto1.html


3 - RICHMOND AND NON-DAMASCUS - POSSIBLES

Richmond ZDP189

$500.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - ZDP189 - 210 mm - 8.25"
CKTG - Richmond ZDP189 Gyuto
HRC - 64 - 65
Material - Chromium Steel - ZDP189
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rizdgy21.html

$450.00
IN STOCK
Santoku - ZDP189 - 165 mm - 6.5"
CKTG - Richmond ZDP189 Santoku
HRC - 64 - 65
Material - Chromium Steel - ZDP189
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rizdsa16.html

$450.00
IN STOCK
Nakiri - ZDP189 - 165 mm - 6.5"
CKTG - ZDP189 Nakiri
HRC - 64 - 65
Material - Chromium Steel - ZDP189
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rizdna.html

Richmond Addict 2
$170.00
OUT OF STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Rosewood Handle 240 mm - 9.5"
CKTG - Knife Addict
Heel - 54.8 mm - 2.16"
Material - Semi-Stainless - CPM154
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riknad24.html

Richmond Laser
$260.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - Handle Maple & Wenge Wood - 270 mm - 10.5"
CKTG - Rich Laser 270 Gyuto
Heel - 50.5 mm - 2.0"
HRC - 61
Material - Stainless Steel - AEB-L
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/rila27gy.html

Richmond Artifex
$120.00
IN STOCK
Chef Gyuto - M390 - 210 mm - 8.25"
CKTG - Atifex M390
Heel - 43.4 mm - 1.7"
HRC - 61
Material - Super Steel - M390
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riar21gym3.html

Richmond Ultimatum
$250.00
OUT OF STOCK
Chef Gyuto - M390 Steel - 245 mm - 9.6"
CKTG - Ultimatum M390
Heel - 46.5 mm - 1.83"
HRC - 62
Material - Super Steel - M390
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riulm3st.html

Thank you for taking the time to consider my question and reply.

Happy Holidays!

Peter



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 Post subject: Re: Questions on multiple kitchen knives
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:59 pm 
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Hi Peter,

That's a big list! :)

The Konosuke Addict is a great knife and that would be my choice for a non damascus knife.

My Richmond Damascus would be my choice for a damascus blade. Maybe try the 210mm since it's in stock.

Also Takeda's gyuto is in stock and that's another knife I love. I tend to like the tall knives quite a bit.

We sold the Hiromoto damascus line for a couple of years but they were very poor sellers so we discontinued them. I can special order one for you if you like but Koki at Japanese Chef Knife is a good dealer and he will ship it to you fast and I'm sure he has them in stock.



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 Post subject: Re: Questions on multiple kitchen knives
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:03 pm 
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The Tanaka Damascus makes two of your lists, if carbon is okay, I'd get that knife as it is very nice.

Other wise, you've listed a ton of great knives. The Addict is a killer knife. The Laser is really nice. Richmond Damascus is nice too. I'd think it comes down more to what you're after in a knife. You've got lots of different knives too... Lots of price range too.

Maybe a few more criteria from you would help narrow the list down a bit. I :)



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 Post subject: Re: Questions on multiple kitchen knives
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:12 pm 
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I second the Tanaka Sekiso Damascus, my go to knife since August and has only seen the strop a few times (I'm a home cook) since August! Still outcuts pretty much everything I currently have. wa handle is nice and good sized for my hands. Great convex grind to it, can't say enough good about it! Spine and choil may need to be smoothed out, which is common on many Japanese knives.

The Richmond Addict 2 is a nice knife for big hands, but the handle may be a touch thin handle wise depending on your hand size. Richmond Damascus would also be sweet, too, as would the Hiro AS 240mm; the handle is a touch larger than the 210mm and felt good in my hands (I wear a XL glove, but my fingers are shorter). Takeda should work well since they are a tall knife. The Ultimatum is a bit narrower/shorter blade height wise, so depending on how large your fingers are, they may hit the board. The Artifex have a smaller handle length wise and some people have had them rehandled in thicker material or converted to a Wa style handle (wa or western shape) to get extra length and size to it.


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i would love the tanaka sekiso damscus but here i am going to say what i keep saying, d handles. =(

(lefty)

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Get a new handle on it. :-)



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 Post subject: Re: Questions on multiple kitchen knives
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:19 pm 
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See if Mark can swap it out!

Would people be interested in a Semi finished Wa handle that they could finish and install themselves? Thinking of doing a few non stabilized wood handles where the ferrule and main handle part are joined internally with a dowel that goes all the way thru the ferrule and partway through the rear portion. Thinking of roughing the Octagon, Oval or D shape to a 120 or 220 grit belt and drilling a 1/8" hole in the middle of the handle. It would let people file the slot and install/finish their own handle.


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Would people be interested in a Semi finished Wa handle that they could finish and install themselves? Thinking of doing a few non stabilized wood handles where the ferrule and main handle part are joined internally with a dowel that goes all the way thru the ferrule and partway through the rear portion. Thinking of roughing the Octagon, Oval or D shape to a 120 or 220 grit belt and drilling a 1/8" hole in the middle of the handle. It would let people file the slot and install/finish their own handle.


being from a whole 'nuther continent, i'd definitely be interested, correction, i would love it, having no option for a rehandle other than getting it done by someone else overseas. would be great to get to see some sort of youtube vid on how to install it ourselves by a step by step basis.

but then that's IF there's enough interest on your proposal.

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