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 Post subject: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:22 pm 
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Hi Mark,
thanks for the reply. I'm doing a little research before I put in my order. I recently sent my cck small cleaver to a professional sharpening service here in Ireland and the results were disastrous. The blade now has that many curves in it it's nearly a serrated knife now! I'm looking to start sharpening my knives myself so I'd like some advice on what I'd need to start off? Type of stone, plate, honing steel etc? It would mainly be to sharpen my CCK and hopefully my new Tojiro ITK. I have sent my Shun off to use their free sharpening service but i'm hoping by the time it needs re sharpening I will be skilled enough to do it myself. Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:24 pm 
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Sorry about your cck. There are a lot of complete hacks that pose as knife sharpeners out in the world so it's really best if you learn to do it yourself. It's fun!

You can start with just a couple stones.

Try the Beston 500 and the Green Brick 2K. Those two stones will allow you to grind out your problem and put a good edge on your knife.



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 Post subject: Re: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
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Thanks for the advice! have been putting off learning to do it for a while but it seems if you want it done right, D.I.Y.!


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Is there a need for a honing steel. I currently use a Wüsthof one that's about 10 years old? Pretty standard, think it came with my first set?


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 Post subject: Re: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Depending on the severity of the chips, a stone like the 500 Beston might be a good choice. If the chips are really severe, a DMT XXC might be necessary.....just depends on how much metal you need to remove.

As Mark noted, adding a 2,000 grit (or somewhere in that ballpark) would get you a good, sharp edge.

If the budget allowed, I would start with:

500 Beston
1200 Bester (not currently in stock)
Suehiro Rika (also not in stock ATM)

As an alternate to the 1200 Bester, the 1k Ume is shaping up to be nice, but I've only sharpened two knives with it.

I've not found a good replacement for the Rika yet.....but most likely anything in that 2k to 4k range would be good.

A honing steel is meant to realign the displaced edge of a soft steel knife. The knife's edge will actually roll over and the honing rod realigns it. So, they're nice to have if you have knives that do that.

A strop can be used for the same purpose as can a high grit stone. I would rather have the high grit stone and use it to realign the edge because it also works for other things.

A ceramic hone is often used by us knife nuts on harder steel knives, and will work on the soft stuff too.

The Idahone is a popular choice.

http://www.chefknivestogo.com/idahone.html



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 Post subject: Re: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:50 pm 
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I should be back in stock on the bester 1200 and Rika in about 2 weeks.



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The blade isn't chipped, instead of a nice cleaver edge its wavy, when put edge down on the board you can see big gaps.


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Thanks for all the info lads! So a good starter set would be a 500, 1200 and a 2 or 4 k bester or rika brand. I've been using the steel one or two passes before every use. Is this too much??


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Ohhhhhh....did said sharpener take a shot for that one? That's awful. Wow!!!

That would be a great start....really not much you can't do with that.

Not too much....but I wouldn't use on really hard knives.



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 Post subject: Re: New to sharpening. Fixing my CCK.
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Simon, can you post a pic of the damage? That would give us a better idea of just how rough you might need to go to straighten things out.

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