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Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:40 am

I have recently began stone sharpening with the 1k red brick and am now looking for a higher grit stone to follow up on. After reading a lot of posts I can see people have their alliegences to certain stones. Is stone pairing important? Like do certain stones work best or better with certain stones? Or just a matter of how you want, say, a 6000 grit to feel?


Re: Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:24 am

I would ask first what type of knives you have. If they're all Germans, the 1200 is probably as high as you need. That and a decent strop should work well for you.

Personally, I don't think sticking with one "brand" of stones is all that important. You need stones that work for what you're doing, so don't limit yourself. There are certain stones that I like and ones I don't, but for someone else, that may be the exact opposite. I don't think you'd find too many negatives to a 1200/5000 pairing...............

It also depends on what you sharpen. Some knives/steels do better with one stone vs another. I sharpen woodworking tools as well, like chisels and plane blades, and each one is different. A2 sharpens different than O1 sharpens different than ............

That doesn't sound like much help................but I sure feel better............... :mrgreen:

Re: Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:08 am

A common choice is often the Rika 5K stone. I use mine after using a Bester 1200 and it gives a great edge on most steels. Stone has a softer feel to it, feels smooth working on the stone, but isn't super soft. It's got a nice feel and works really well and builds up a mud nicely to further polish.

Re: Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:57 pm

...what does "nigher" mean.........

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Re: Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:49 pm

Most of the time you want a stone that will bridge the gap to a high grit stone. I like Aoto style stones for this and will put in my vote for a Naniwa 2k Green brick. It tends to polish much higher than the grit rating but leave a little tooth to the edge, you end up with a aggressive cutting edge with a very high level of sharpness. If desired it can easily be followed by a 8k or 10k stone for a highly refined cutting edge.

Re: Need a nigher grit

Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:50 pm

MOWG <> Like Rich said, it matters what you're sharpening, like Tim said, the Rika ROCKS... it just feels awesome with great feedback and polish, like Jason said, consider a bridge, and like I'll add, I'm on a Konosuke HD kick right now and I am utterly pleased & just totally impressed by that steel's edge & retention after a nice setting on a Bester 1200, bridging with a King 3k, refining with a Rika 5k & polishing with a Kityama 8k. G-d, I love my Kity... :twisted:

At the end of a day, stropping on the Kity has been working nicely, or touch ups on the Rika, if it's been a rough one. The HD is reacting really well with this method for me right now... suprisingly well, really.

Re: Need a nigher grit

Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:09 am

Pairing stone-to-stone and stone-to-steel is important. That's why although you only need 2 stones ala Murray Carter, I still have a crate full of them that I mix and match in nearly endless combinations for different tasks.

What are you sharpening?

Re: Need a nigher grit

Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:07 pm

Thank you for all of our responses. Currently I am sharpening everything and anything I can get my hands on. I recently received my 1k brick a month or do ago after discovering high end knives. I wanted to be proficient in sharpening before I spoiled myself with anything that would need any stone maintenance.

However I am soon planning to invest on:
Richmond artifex 210mm
Some sort of 210 kurouchi
Tojiro bread knife
FKM petty


Re: Need a nigher grit

Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:07 pm

If you have the red brick I recommend you get a good 4-6K stone next. The baseless Rika is a good one. So is the Arashiyama 6K. Either of these stones will add a big boost to your performance.

Re: Need a nigher grit

Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Yeah, the Rika will leave a nice semi-contrast on the steels of your future KU knife, and does well with the stainless stuff you have.
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