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 Post subject: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:06 pm 

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So i got the Richmond Laser AS gyuto 240 a couple months back and completely fell in love with this knife and steel. Always been a fan of the Japanese handles and the octagonal handles are even better than the smooth D shaped ones in my opinion. So I am currently looking for a knife to filet fish (I work in a professional kitchen) that has most of the same qualities except I want something that is very flexible. As i understand there is a version of the same knife i bought in a suji shape but from what i have read this is more of a slicers than something to filet fish with.

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-I really like the AS steel. It sharpens great and performs even better. If not this steel something very similar
-A octagonal handle is best but any thing but western is preferred
-Very flexible, something for fileting fish


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:36 am 
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AS steel usually comes in a cladded version; I have not seen a solid AS steel blade. I haven't seen any Japanese blades in carbon for breaking down fish that are flexible. There is a knife called a Sole Knife that is like a long thin suji and flexible, but it's in stainless steel, but it's a western handle. Most Japanese fish knives are stiff Deba's and single bevel stuff and are not flexible.

I don't think they knife you want exists. An Artifex Su ji (stainless AEB-L)can be thinned down and converted to a Wa handle for filleting, or find a carbon suji that is thin and flexible. Kono has some flexible suji's, but not in AS.


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:06 pm 

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Agreed. I've looked some lengths myself and can't find a flexible Japanese boning knife or fillet knife. For boning purposes, Japanese smiths still almost exclusively make deba. Clad knives don't tend to flex so much as bend, so if you really want a carbon fillet knife it's going to be a costly American smith or possibly a Sabatier.


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:29 pm 

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I'm looking for the same thing let me know what you find.


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:26 pm 
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I've looked for years. Flexible knives are Sole Knives and are somewhat rare and usually a Stainless steel and western handle. I have yet to see an all AS steel that is not clad.

Not sure if the Japanese sell AS raw steel to US customers or not; Mark just got a ton of Blue #2 in, but he had to order a LOT. AEB-L is stainless, but will take and hold a very fine edge. Other high end "supersteels" will work as well, like M390, CPM S35VN, etc, but you will need to have something custom made. How long of a blade are you looking for?


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:54 pm 

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I just got a Warther outdoor 6" fillet knife in S35V for use at the beach. Unfortunately, so far, I have only caught a too small fish and a stingray. I can't give you any idea about how well it holds an edge yet on fish, or how well it will fillet a fish, but S35V is a pretty good stainless. The blade is flexible, as is their 7" slicing knife...also in S35V.


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 Post subject: Re: Need a good Fish Filet knife AS steel
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:37 am 

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Thanks for all the replies

I had a feeling I was wanting something that didn't exist. Does anyone have an idea of a steel type that is similar to AS steel?

I just feel in love with this type of steel

By the way i actually ended up getting the Richmond artifex Suji and am happy with how it works but still chasing that perfect blade


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