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Need a 400 waterstone

Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:56 pm

Hello guys.
I currently need a 400 grit waterstone and want some suggestions from you.
I was thinking about the Chosera, however I've heard some good reviews on the "Latte". Did anyone know them well enough to compare?
I am also open for other suggestions.

Obs. I am not a big fan of too soft stones, but I do enjoy "playing in the mud". ;)

Best Regards,
Daniel.

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:31 pm

DANIEL <> I have no experience with the Chosera, but I do have loads of experience on "stones." The Latte is really a game changer for me, in that, I have always hated low grit stones, but the Latte is a truly enjoyable abrasive. It cuts like a 400, but it does so in a strangely controlled manner. It's 400 aggressive, but it's not aggressive. It's a pretty hard stone for a 400 that won't dish instantly, and it seems to generate a lot of swarf before a true mud. With a slurry stone, it has a consistent texture to the mud that is like a smooth grain. It is really a pleasure to work with, and an awesome value at $50...

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:52 pm

Thanks Melampus.
How much presoaking does the Latte requires for a optimun result, in you oppinion?

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:27 pm

I did not have the same experience from the latte. From the start it wore quickly and needed constant flattening to keep flat. I also thought it wore very fast.

It is however a nice cutting stone with awesome feedback.

The chosera 400 might not cut as fast and has less "grab" when grinding steel but its still very fast and will will dish much slower. Probably one of the slowest wearing coarse stones I have ever used.

Though I like the feel of the latte much better I would pick the chosera for overall performance.

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:22 pm

Can't compare with the Latte. Love the Chosera for its very regular fine scratch pattern and fast working. Use it when coming from coarse sandpaper after major thinning or reprofiling.

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:24 am

There are several good ones on the site. Try the Imanishi 400. It's made by the same factory as the Latte, has great feedback and is nice and fast. It's less than the latte or the chosera too. As with most low grit stones it wears somewhat quickly but similar to the other two in this respect.
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/ri400grwast.html

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:06 am

Anybody have a take on the ume 320? Seems like a lot of stone for the money.

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:45 am

I love coarse stones, 90% of the knives I sharpen spend the 90% of their time on a coarse stone, they hold a special place in my heart.

The 400 Chosera is my favourite 400 but I have not tied the Imanishi. (I have an Imanishi 4k stone which is outstanding so I bet the one Mark recommends is a very good one). The Latte is good as well but takes a back seat to others in my home.

Actually, the 500 Shapton Glass is the stone that I use most often.

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:32 pm

I use the glass 500 all the time at work. Splash and go, wears slow... :)

That would be a good tag line for the shaptons! "Splash and Go, Wears Slow"

Re: Need a 400 waterstone

Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:21 pm

I love my Latte!
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