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 Post subject: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:01 pm 

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My old masamoto vg10 gyuto is getting short and will be turning into a suji soon enough that i need to start saving for a replacement. I'm looking at these 4, all 240mm.

Masamoto KS wa-gyuto
Moritaka AS wa-gyuto
Suisin inox wa-gyuto
Or a Murray Carter wa-gyuto


I'd like to see your pros and cons for all of these knives, thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:17 pm 

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Might want to fill out the questionnaire you see on the stickies on page 1 of Knife Recommendation. Price, handle, carbon or SS, etc., are helpful for folks to narrow down their suggestions.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:50 pm 

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Those are the four I've narrowed it down to, just want opinions on them now.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:41 am 

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If you're considering the Masamoto, also consider the Ikeda 250. I have one and it works nicely. I think Bikeman has both it and the Masamoto so he can compare them for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:14 pm 

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If you have the money the Suisin Inox is a "classic" b/c you can get it now Carters are a hard thing to come by these days he seems to not be making that many at the moment hopefully that changes.

I would rank them like this:

1. Carter
2. Suisin
3. Masamoto
4. Moritaka

that is just my personal opinion


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:03 pm 
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The Ikeda is the same profile, better steel, damascus clad and less money. I would choose it over the Masamoto KS any day. Same goes for the Moritaka.



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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:09 pm 
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You really kind of picked an odd assortment. :)

Carter makes great cutters.....absolutely no question about that. Given availability, and price, I'd have to have that first on the list of those four if you can at least get his High Grade series.

The Suisin and Masamoto are both very good knives and I'd probably pick between the two based on whether I wanted carbon or stainless.



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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:16 pm 

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The Suisin is thin as heck too


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:47 pm 

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The reasons I picked these four:

Murray Carter - never considered these knives until a couple months ago. A coworker has 2 or 3 of them and loves them. The only thing I think I'd dislike is how thick his 240 appears to be.
Suisin - Its been on my wish list since I started getting serious about knives 6 years ago, was always afraid of the thin factor though
Masamoto - I'm a masamoto fan, what can I say.
Moritaka - CKTG had a link to it when i was checking out the masamoto KS, the profile is very similar, but it seems super thick.

I would have mentioned aritsugu (though I don't think they are the cool knives since KCMA passed) but lacking a full set of diamond stones getting one ready would be a challenge to say the least.

I need the knife to be able to handle everything from tomato, to terrines, to breaking down lobster, quartering chicken, cutting winter squash and hard cheeses like parm without wedging. If it can do all that, with minimal touch ups on a 1k-3k stone every day I'm sold.

stainless and carbon make no real difference although i love the look of an old carbon masamoto - performance is what is key here. I tend to hold my knife more often on the handle than pinch gripping but its so loose the handle is no real determining factor for me.

Please excuse the briefness of my previous posts, I made them while I was eating family meal yesterday. Hope this helps :)


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a new work gyuto
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:18 pm 
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I'd have to go with the Masamoto KS, I'm a masamoto fan, what can I say. ;)



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