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Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:59 pm

I am about to pull the trigger on a new high end Gyuto for my home and I am trying to decide between the Konosuke 270mm funayuki/gyuto or a Takeda 240mm sasanoha. I am a cook and work with some decent japanese knives at work so I have respect for knives and know how to treat high hardness steel. I have never owned a true laser and I am not sure if the Takeda is one or not but I have always been interested in the Takedas because of the steel and the finish, now I also love the look and shape of the Konosuke as well. Which would you buy, I would also like to add that I am purchasing a Moritaka supreme 165mm petty in aogami with a korouchi finish which makes the Takeda a bit redundant. Finally, does what I believe to be a lacquer kurouchi finish like on the Moritaka make the blade feel muted and also does the Takeda blade feel muted with what I perceive to be a bake on kurouchi finish. Which would you buy as I am geting anxious over here.

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:18 pm

Kono, maybe even the HD? I did a saya for the Takeda and while it is very thin, it was also very flexy and sort of a PITA to sharpen. The Kono HD's have a much more solid feel to them. I like the grinds on the Kono's vs the Takeda grind.

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:23 pm

JW <> Kurouchi IS a baked on finish... mud from the annealing. A lacquer is sometimes applied on top afterward.

I don't know that I'd say the kurouchi causes any muted feedback; the iron-cladding on both the Moritaka/Takeda do - IF you consider them muted. Furthermore, if you still believe the kurouchi is muting, get some sandpaper & polish it off. Problem solved.

I would buy the HD (the only two Kono 270 funayukis) regardless... because its HD. Really my only decision would be the 275mm @$337 or the 285mm @$310...

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:25 pm

Yeah I forgot to mention that I was looking at the kono HD

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:28 pm

You did mention it; there are only two Kono 270 Funayukis. There aren't any other 270 Funas by Konosuke...

Only the 285mm http://www.chefknivestogo.com/riul270gyhds.html
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275mm http://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohd27funews.html

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:33 pm

I have the HD Ultimatum and like it :) Need to use it more though...but it has to compete with my Tanaka, AS Laser and now a Blue #2 Honyaki!

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:35 pm

:lol: What is this the 70's all over.?! That's like trying to penetrate the Steel Curtain!

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:40 pm

Melampus wrote:JW <> Really my only decision would be the 275mm @$337 or the 285mm @$310...


I am confused as to which knives you are talking about, could you possibly give me a link.

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:44 pm

The Regular HD2 270mm Funayuki is $337 and the Richmond HD Ultimatum by Konosuke is the 285mm blade one, but it's a slightly different profile. The Fujiyama Blue #2 series also has a 270mm Funy as well :)

Re: Konosuke or Takeda Sasanoha

Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:50 pm

JW <> I had already posted the links.

TAZ <> I had/have never seen the Fuji 270 Funayuki.
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