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Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:45 am

Electric ranges are worse than ovens, but neither is as good as a nice gas one. haha

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:57 am

We have an electric convection/standard oven that works pretty well. I do a fair amount of bread baking and I have not had problems with the temp setting.

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:00 am

Jeff B wrote:Have a gas Range AND I LOVE IT!

+1 :twisted:


Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:19 am

I have two stacked electric/convection ovens and they are ok as long as you do not put anything below the middle of the oven. If you try to put something on the lowest rack, which is, of course, the one that slides out on a rolling track, it will burn on the bottom. So you can't bake two sheets of cookies in the oven. Now that I think about it, that does kind of suck. But nothing in the kitchen compares to the suckiness of my dishwasher. It cleans nothing. And god forbid you put a bowl on the top rack. You can just go ahead and plan to put it back in on the bottom rack next load cause it won't even touch it. My husband would say it is the fridge that is the worst. It is huge, but it is deceptive because it holds relatively nothing. It is arranged in a such stupid way where there is so much wasted space. Plus, it is loud and likes to make strange noises all the time.

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:03 am

gas ovens are great in the winter when the power goes out. the range top wont start (electric ignition) but the oven always fires up

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:11 am

That's why they make matches and lighters :-) :-). Sorry, I just had to bust your chops a little on a Friday ;-). Just havin' fun.

Our oven has gas burners and a gas convection oven. I really don't like cooking on stoves w/the coiled burners or the sealed flat tops w/the circles marked for burners. It's like flying a hot air balloon, you must think way ahead on the temperature control. The only thing that bugs me about it is I can't comfortably fit multiple large pans on the stove top. Someday I'd love to have something to fit 2 12" and 2 10" pans at once.

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:20 am

I don't do a whole lot of baking so gas vs. electric ovens doesn't really bother me, the ones I have used have worked out fine so far. For the stove top though I LOVE gas. I like being able to see how "hot" it is by the flame and that it is instant off. Working during power outages is a big plus as well. That being said I have grown accustomed to and actually like my current glass top electric stove. Not that I have much choice as the house is all electric though. lol Once I got used to cooking on it and learned how to "plan" my heat control it does a great job. I do however HATE open coil style electric burners with a passion. Some of those that I have used seemed to barely be able to boil water, and the ones that could took FOREVER to get it there. Not to mention that cleanup can be a real pain. Give me sealed gas burners or a glass top any day over the coils. ;)

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:02 am

I usually prefer gas stoves however, my gas oven at work is the most inconsistent oven i have ever worked with. We end up using our impinger for almost anything that can fit.

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:14 pm

I do quite a lot of baking. I love making home made pizzas as we can load em up with all the goodies in the pantry.

temperature spikes for bread and pizza really isn't a big deal since I use a stone. However for sensitive items like cookies 50 degrees is a huge deal. bottoms burnt top raw.

I love cooking on gas but I dont mind the glass electric style. I just hate electric.

Re: I hate my oven... Sooo much.

Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:26 am

Just be sure to turn on the range hood when using gas.

From http://articles.latimes.com/2013/nov/06 ... a-20131106:

Cook with a gas stove? You could be breathing polluted air, study says

November 06, 2013
By Tony Barboza

A big polluter could be blazing inside your kitchen, its blue flames glowing under your tea kettle or frying pan.

A new study says cooking with a gas stove can expose you to unhealthy levels of air pollution.

About two-thirds of Southern California households that use natural gas burners without proper ventilation breathe levels of air pollution so high that they would exceed federal health standards outdoors, scientists with the U.S. Department of Energy’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory found.

After testing gas ranges to determine their pollution output, researchers used data on more than 6,000 Southern California households and their cooking habits to estimate people's exposure to air pollutants in the kitchen during a typical week in the winter.

They discovered that 62% of households using gas burners without venting range hoods are routinely exposed to excessive levels of nitrogen dioxide, 9% to carbon monoxide and 52% to formaldehyde, gases that can cause respiratory problems and worsen asthma and cardiovascular disease.

“Even in Los Angeles, those pollutants don’t exceed air quality standards outdoors,” said Brett Singer, a staff scientist who studies indoor air quality at Berkeley Lab. “But inside homes they do.”

The findings have wide implications because half of California homes have gas burners and most of them do not use range hoods that capture fumes and vent them to the outside. About one-third of households nationwide use gas burners for cooking, according to the study published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives.

In all, the scientists estimate that as many as 12 million Californians are exposed to levels of nitrogen dioxide above health standards as a result of cooking with gas burners. Nationally, there could be tens of millions more.

The concern over stovetops may seem surprising because air pollution has typically been viewed as an outdoor problem -- something spewed out by smokestacks and exhaust pipes, said Jennifer Logue, a research scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Lab and lead author of the study.

But cooking on a gas burner inside your home means burning fuel in a much more confined space, where the resulting pollutants can’t easily escape or dilute, particularly if there is no ventilation to the outside, she said.

Luckily, there are simple ways to limit your exposure. First, use a range hood. Even a moderately effective one will substantially cut concentrations of pollutants in your home, researchers said. Cooking on the back burners can help too, because they sit directly under the ventilation system.

“This is not meant to scare people away from cooking,” Logue said. “People are very used to cooking so they don't think about it. They don't use their range hood because they don't consider it a hazard. Our study really looked at that problem and how significant it is.”
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