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 Post subject: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:37 am 

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Ok, so I bit, as promised. I ordered an Edge Pro (pro model) and it arrived today. Being that I will be in the poorhouse for quite sometime, I bought the stripped down model with only two stones (I think the 220 white and the 400 tan). So yes, I got my Ferrari, but now have only about a gallon of gas to play with.

That said, I got the stripped down model so that I can build a good quality set of stones from scratch, perhaps a few at at time. Would really like to know what three or four stones should I start with at this point that would get me going for a while? I am an avid freehander with plenty of decent stones. As part of my collection, I have a decent line of the Shapton glass stones. I also have a few Besters, and a NW 2k green brick, and bits and pieces of others.

I guess I am looking to spend maybe $100 to $150 to start. To truly appreciate the capability of the device, what stones should I consider at this point? Also, do some brands last longer than others? For example, my freehand Shapton glass stones seem to show almost no wear after a year of fairly heavy use. Would glass stones for the EP also be a long-wearing and also give me a good edge?

Are there any stones that you think really make this thing sing? Any stones that perhaps did not work out so well (for example, I love many of the Shapton glass stones, but there are few that just seem to have odd feel to them).

Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:39 pm 
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Well if wear is an important criteria, the Shapton Pro stones wear even better than the Glassstones and given the extra thick dimensions of the Shapton Pro stones, well you know where this is going. Both stone series should work quite nicely on the EP.

At this point as a freehand sharpener, most of the stones used for freehanding are also available on the EP. If not, let me know. So you could largely duplicate your freehand stones on the EP or just start off in a totally new direction, for instance considering the soon to be released Nubatama stones. I would certainly consider a 1k stone a 2 or 3k stone and a 5k stone at a minimum and go on from there to both coarser and finer. I here nothing but good reviews for the 140 Atoma 1x6 plate from my customers. I guess as a freehand sharpener you already have something to flatten stones?

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 Post subject: Re: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:03 pm 

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Thanks for the advice, Ken--

Yes, I do have a diamond DMT for flattening, so should be good in that category. I am leaning heavily towards the Shapton Pros, unless wisdom would suggest the Shapton Glass? Also, looking at the Bester 1200 for the close-to-1k stone; Around 2k I have a toss up between the Shapton Pro 2k or the green brick 2k (which I currently own). I own a full set of glass stones, but full size. I have not used the Pros. Anything else you could tell me about the Nubatama stones were pondering?

Bottom line: Playing with the stone costs, I quickly bumped up the budget to $200, so that should give me a chance to get a good set going. If you had two bills, and had no EP stones, what would you grab that would roughly fit into that budget?

My knives include soft carbons (Sabs), Misonos and steel up to Moritkas.

Many thanks again for the advice and help!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:18 pm 

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Bang for buck wise I really like some of the different boride stones in the lower grits up to 600 grit,then finish japanese stones from 8k up.Those 2 stones that came with your setup are really good,I think Ben swapped out the 320 as-9 stones for the 400 orange edm you have,and the orange edm are much faster,I have those in 220,320 and 600.

I also have the hard silicone carbide stones in 400,600,800,1000,and 1200,they pretty much eat ant type of steel with no problem.Funny thing is edge wise after I finish with the 1200 in that line up,if I use another 1200 afterward in an aluminum oxide stone the edge is considerably sharper,perhaps someone can chime in on that one?

I look forward myself to getting sone of the shapton pros,alot of pros to them with being splash and go,slow to dish make them an excellent chioce.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:57 pm 
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The shapton glass stones are not ready for sale yet. They should be available soon. The Shapton Pros are available and in stock now. They work well on most steels and should be good for you. The Glass Stones are the new technology and they wear more slowly and cut better on some steels but like I said they are a fantasy until we get the first batch and I'm not sure when that will happen.



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 Post subject: Re: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:28 pm 
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I'll be cutting up the Nubatama stones, initially Bamboo and then later Ume series stones, upon my return from the Blade show, so they will certainly be a good option, particularly on carbon steel blades which you describe, but having said that and given that the GlassStones aren't ready yet either, the Shapton Pro stones are looking like a front runner IMO, especially if 'splash and go' is an attraction. 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.

I must warn you about the EP in advance. Because buying a stone for the EP won't set you back like buying a full sized stone, it will be tempting to try even more stones than you would as a full sized stone user. And, since you are also a freehand sharpener, this will help you 'taste' several stones before you also think of buying a full sized one for freehand use.

And yes you will find yourself freehanding on EP stones too.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with new Edge Pro stones
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:02 pm 
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We're getting the first factory made Shapton Glass Stones in this week for aproval. Once I sign off on them we should get a couple dozen of each grit pretty quickly.



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