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 Post subject: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:10 pm 
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I tried my hand at making some DIY stones for EP. Got some 1"x1/8"x4' aluminum from Lowe's. Ordered 5 stones, 1"x1/4"x6" from Congress tools. Cut the aluminum to size and beveled the ends with a file. Then I used some JB Weld kwik to glue the stones to the plates. Seemed to work OK, then I did some maintenance on a couple of them last night and the stones came of the plates. :(

Wondering if anyone has tried doing this? If so what did you use for your glue. Seems like the 3M Super 77 spray is a popular choice but it seems like a pain the butt to me mess wise. I'm thinking I'd like to try Gorilla Glue? I didn't rough the plates before assembly last time, I will this time though. ;) Would love to hear your thoughts?

I know it's kind of pointless after spending $290 on Shapton Glass stones (They rock BTW) but I'd at least like them workable again.


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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:02 pm 
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Try the 3mm 77 spray. It's messy but it works.



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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:46 pm 

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I think Ben Dale uses the 3M Super 77 spray.


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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
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3M is the only stuff I use and it's the only thing that worked for me.



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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:49 pm 

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I've been using "Seal-All" for a couple of years. No problems at all. It sets fast and when you need to remove an old stone to put a new one on a blank put it in boiling water for a few minutes and it releases with no problem. Since you don't need to do this very often it's nice to use something you have around the house anyway. Seal-all is a general purpose glue that I had on hand the first time I wanted to do this. I got it at Wal Mart.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:25 pm 
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Well since I had two of my DIY stones separate with the JB Kwik I went ahead and tried Gorilla clear on one and Gorilla super glue on the other. They have been sitting for just ober 24 hours now. The super glue one set up solid and really fast. I kept the Gorilla Clear stone clamped for a few housr. It seems pretty solid too at this point. I'm going to give them a tryout in a little while. If this doesn't wotk out I'll get some 3M. I'd sure like to not have to though. I have used similar spray adhesive in the past it makes a mess out the work space, at least in my hands it did. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:36 pm 

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The Gorilla glue I've used worked really well. It was for something I never wanted to come apart. Gorilla glue is the best glue in the world. How do I know this you ask? It says so right on the label. :D It may be hard to remove an old stone though. I like to be able to remove the old stone when necessary so I don't need to make another blank if I just throw the used one away. How often do you completely wear out a stone? Hopefully not very often. I have had a couple of times where I wanted to try a different stone and didn't have any spare blanks so I removed a stone that I didn't use very much from it's blank. I agree about the aerosol 3M spray glue. It works but anything in an aerosol can will be a little messy. I'm sure it's better for Ben Dale or someone gluing many stones at once. Just spray a bunch of blanks and start sticking stones to them.


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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:31 pm 
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I'm sure that I'll be able to remove the stone if need be down the road. Looks like the Gorilla glue is working out just fine at this point, time will tell.

Considering the DIY nature of this, it cost less than $9.00 to make 7 blanks to mount stones on. I can always make more if the Gorilla Glue confounds me. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: DIY EP Stones?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:21 pm 

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Paradox -

I pretty much did the same thing that you did. I bought a 1" x 1/8" x 8' piece of aluminum from a metal recycler for $3.00 and used 5 minute epoxy from Harbor Freight and have no problems with the stones coming loose or detaching.

Did you get the Moldmaster stones from Congress? I got the 120, 150, 240, 320, 400 and 600 grit Moldmaster stones. Did you get the 600 grit? The reason I ask is that I really like all the stones execpt the 600. I actually hate it. I used it on one paring knife and it showed about 1/2 mm wear in the center of the stone; one knife - a 3" paring knife for crap sakes! It also leaves the edge dull looking, not shiny or mirror finish. Hate it.

What is your impression of the stones?

Do you soak them in water or just spray some on them?

Thanks for any info you might have about using these stones. I am new to knife sharpening using the Edge Pro. I got mine used from craigslist, but there were no stones included. This is my first post by the way. Lots of good info on this forum.

Jackson


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