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Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:01 am
They are both very good. Nicer handle and fit and finish on the Suisin. Little harder, better steel on the Tojiro. If I had to choose between the two I would go for the Tojiro.
Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:49 am
I'd go with the Tojiro. It is a beast, gets deadly sharp. The handle is decent enough, but the blade is just awesome. Very good steel.
Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:39 am
Never used the Tojiro, but I used to work sometimes with a Suisin like that one. It worked great. I actually repaired one recently with a few chips and a messed up Shinogi, and it was a pretty easy task, all things considered.
Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:18 pm
Thanks guys, I will be getting the Tojiro then. Also not sure if I should post it here or as another topic but how much would it cost to put a handle on a 300mm Yanagi? The knife never had a handle made for it.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:07 am
Depends on what kind of handle you want. The sky's the limit! Mammoth tooth, Premium Gold Ironwood Burl, Fossilized Walrus Tusk, fileworked bronze spacers, carved jade buttcap and a dragon/tiger scrimshaw will run you like $1,000.
I'm being a smartass, but really it's anywhere from like $50-$200 depending on how nice a handle you want.
Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:13 am
Haha a dragon's scrimshaw sounds a bit too epic.
I just wanted something simple like an ebony wood handle with a buffalo ferrule or even a regular ho wood handle with a buffalo ferrule.
Something like the handle on your custom Murray Carter would look awesome but most likely very price.
Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:13 pm
Here's a couple good ones we got recently from Tanaka. Blue #2, HRC 62 and under $200.http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tanakabasic.html
Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:49 pm
Well Nubatama makes debas. His preference for debas is white steel rather than the blue steels or even the black steel. He feels that the white steel is a better choice for a knife that is chopping through fish bones. The one I have doesn't have a handle yet, but that thing is razor sharp. PM me if you are interested. It is usually a special order , but he may have one in stock of the size you want.
Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:42 am
I just ordered some white #2 steel 180mm debas from Konosuke. They should be in stock in about 30 days. White #2 is $240. We also have some White #1 on order and they will be about 10% more.
Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:36 pm
I just looked at the Nubatama knives and they look fairly expensive. I don't know it if I could afford one right now.
Mark, do you have any pictures of the Konosuke deba or do the look exactly like the ginsan one (without fancy damascus)?
Also I am very new to carbon steel, so how does white#1, white#2, blue#2 stack up against each other in your opinion?
I did some research and some say its a preference thing and on some website they say white#1 can get the best edge. Murray Carter prefers white#1 for a very keen edge and says blue#2 is best for edge retention. I just don't have experience with either steel to know what I want.
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