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Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:28 pm
How would you compare the AEB-L steel on the Artifex with the VG-10 on the Tojiro? Holding an edge, ease of sharpening, and stain resistance?
How about the Micarta handle on the Artifex vs the wood handle with bolster on the Tijoro for holding up in the kitchen environment?
I have a Tojiro DP 240 that is still new in the box......trying to decide if I want to return it and get the Artifex. Thanks for being patient with my questions!
Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:55 am
Both stainless steels are good. AEB-L sharpens a little better. They both have good stainless properties. I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference unless they are descent sharpeners. Edge retention is similar. Heat treatment matters with these steels too. HRC 60-61 seems to be the sweet spot with both of these steels.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:03 am
I wouldn't mind trying out the AEB-L...sounds like a good knife steel.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:09 am
I like AEB-L over VG-10. Sharpens and deburrs easier, and holds a cleaner edge longer; VG-10 can feel sharp, but the edge is rough feeling. Handle F&F on the Artifex is nicer than the Tojiro and the handle doesn't feel as blocky as the Tojiro, but the handle on the Artifex is a little smaller.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:43 am
coz of those new additions of mark on the artifex line i'm gonna have to purchase practically each one of those artifexes for myself. =D
Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:28 pm
I'm with Taz here....I much prefer AEB-L to VG10.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:29 pm
AEB-L all the way. Love the way it feels on stones, sharpens up like a champ.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:30 pm
VG10 is to steel what Shun is to Jknives.......yesterdays news.
Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:07 am
Ive had a couple Shun's and a Tojiro with vg-10, overall nice but then I bought an artifex with aeb-l. It changed everything for me. Its a really amazing steel. Sharpens up really well, holds the edge for a long time and doesnt chip like vg10 does. Go with Aeb-l. You wont regret it.
Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:47 am
“There are two kinds of fools. One says, "This is old, and therefore good." And one says, " This is new, and therefore better.”
― John Brunner, The Shockwave Rider
It's not the steel, but the implementation.
The Artifex needs some tweaking of the grind to be up to the OOTB Tojiro, but once you've done that, it's a better knife in my opinion. Easier to sharpen, easier to thin (no cladding) and less prone to scratching (the soft cladding, again). Edge retention is going to be a coin flip. The handle materials are essentially the same, but the Tojiro wins in this category only if you want a stainless bolster.
If I were to choose a knife for use in a pro kitchen, I'd pick the Artifex.
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