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Choices, choices

Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:48 pm

Hey all,
Wondering if I could get a little help in blowing my hard earned money.

Right now I'm between a Richmond Super Aogami Laser and a Masakage Shimo (both Gyutos).

Shaun has said they both rock so is the Shimo worth the extra bucks?

Any ideas or thoughts are appreciated.


Re: Choices, choices

Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:54 pm

Can't comment on the quality of either as I have never used them, but the Shimo rates a bit higher on my coolness meter.

'course the AS Laser rates higher on my wallet meter.

Re: Choices, choices

Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:56 am

Given your interest I would also consider the Masakage Yuki - http://www.chefknivestogo.com/mayugy24.html A better value than the Shimo to me and still some "cool factor".
I do think the Richmond Super Aogami Laser has the best steel between the three.

Re: Choices, choices

Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:18 pm

This is a great thread, I've actually been wanting to compare these 2 knives a bit.

The Shimo and AS Laser are 2 knives that are VERY close performance wise IMO while still being different. These 2 blades represent the 2 thinnest-behind-the-edge gyutos on the website to my knowledge. Paper thin grinds with medium weight bodies. If I'm not mistaken the AS Laser might be a little bit taller of a knife height wise, but not by much.

The Shimo has a much cooler finish of course, and that is reflected in the price. The finish is reactive.

The AS Laser is a no-frills performer. It is stainless clad.

Fit and finish on both blades (in respect to rounding of edges, uniformity of finish, etc) is about the same. The edges on the spine and choil are eased but not rounded on both blades.

So, both knives compare very well IMO, it's really almost a matter of which finish you want. The Shimo series really holds a special place in my heart for some reason..... I feel as if someone was trying very hard to make them good blades. Really wish I had a 240 Laser with me right now to compare with the 240 Shimo currently in my possession. 2 excellent blades, either one is an excellent choice.

Re: Choices, choices

Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:58 pm

Thanks all,
So I'm in the same spot as I was after all of Shaun's videos. Same performance but the Shimo looks cool as hell. I guess if I get the Richmond I can apply the difference to a Shimo petty? And after I spend all that I can cook for myself since my wife left.. But at least with cool knives!


Re: Choices, choices

Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:04 pm

coachnj wrote:Thanks all,
....And after I spend all that I can cook for myself since my wife left.. But at least with cool knives!

You wouldn't be the first! :mrgreen:

Re: Choices, choices

Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:02 am

....or the last!! :)

The carbon steel damascus cladding will form a really neat pattern when patina'd.

But, do not that it is all carbon. The stainless cladding of the AS Laser does have it's good points.

Between the two, I'd be stuck like you....cool or money.

Re: Choices, choices

Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:20 am

Jurgens - It's hard to describe, but easy to feel...there's just something about holding a Masakage in your hands. You can just feel the handmade craftmanship. I have the 210 Yuki and got to handle the Shimo Honesuki and Koishi Bunka recently during filming of the Quick Look videos for CKTG.

Nothing against the Laser AS - it's a great knife, but if you have the funds and don't mind a fully reactive blade, the Shimo will leave you grinning every time you use it IMO. Worth every stinkin' penny :-).

Re: Choices, choices

Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:15 am

Masakage Koishi are incredible. AS steel, great profiles, nice F&F, good balance, very cool looking. I only have the 150 mm Petty, and it cuts incredibly well and precisely. Almost makes me wish I had gotten the Koishi 240 mm Gyuto with it instead of the Kono Fujiyama White #1, but the Kono is a work of art and I just loves it so...

Re: Choices, choices

Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:18 am

Good save Doctor; you were bordering blasphemy...
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